When people claim experience in something I am reminded of this story. A nieghbor of mine was 57 y/o, overwieght and smoked. His 'exercise' was standing in the shallow end of our community swimming pool with a beer in one hand, cigarette in the other and both eyes on the young ladies. One day he collapsed and quickly drowned. An autopsy found the obvious damage of his lifestyle. What the local newspaper reported, was he SWAM DAILY FOR HOURS and the drowning was unexpected. So, this father and son had lots of outdoor experience. But, experience in what? walking a designated trail? Cooking smoors and singing campsongs? You can shoot 1000 rounds of handgun ammunition weekly. But if you are missing the target 900 of those rounds you are no Ed McGiven <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />