Sorry for the slow reply, lots to do , no time.
Yes, I was moving the striker into the tinder. Thanks for the tip, I"ll try it ASAP.
Firelay Yes, I was using the tepee style. My problem was trying to use a small birds nest style tinder pile. Dried grass, shavings from dead limb with vaseline coated cotton ball, kept destroying the tinder pile from shaking.
No, vests under our seats. Slow moving river max. about 5 ft deep, half the time canoe was scrapping bottom.
I know the depth being shallow is NO excuse. vests from now on.
The weather was dry but windy. Plenty of dry tinder and firewood close at hand
Thanks for everyones replys and tips, I've learned so much here.