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#40637 - 05/19/05 03:54 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
norad45 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
<<I haven't forgotten the late President Nixon's "no knock law" for entering private citizens homes passed under the guise of helping law enforcement, or former President Bush Sr. allowing the "assault weapons ban" to become law. The fact that the two Presidents are Republicans has no bearing as it is the act and not the actors that matter.>>

Well, evidently you forgot something: that it was Clinton who signed the self-loading weapons ban in 1994--2 years after the election. <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Bush Sr was no friend of gun owners that's for sure. But don't blame him for Clinton's sins. Notice his son didn't make the same mistake this time around.

Regards, Vince


Edited by norad45 (05/19/05 04:11 PM)

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#40638 - 05/19/05 04:23 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Norad45:

I don't remember a self-loading weapons ban being passed into law.

The assualt weapons ban was.

I remember talking personally to former Senator Bill Proxmire when they were debating the gun control act of 1968 and my objecting to its passage. He stood with me in front of the old Treasure Island store on Highway 100 in West Allis, Wisconsin trying to dance his way around without giving a direct answer to me. I remember this so vividly because behind him at both flanks stood the ultimate in hippocracy; two armed State of Wisconsin troopers in civilian clothes. Senator Proxmire was a PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER. who up until that time had given blanket support to Wisconsin gun owners. He never got another one of my votes.

By the by, I voted for Bush Jr. the first time, but consider him too Facist in policy and dispite my general dislike (Not just the gun issue.) of John Kerry I felt the country as a whole would have been better off, I voted for Kerry.

History is showing that for my purposes and beliefs, I was right.

Bountyhunter

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#40639 - 05/19/05 04:28 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Stevez:

I'd rather make her poorer, marked as a stupid reactionary, and unemployed.

She can buy her own gifts as she would probably misinterpert anything I gave her.

Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#40640 - 05/19/05 04:39 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
norad45 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
1. Didn't Hillary Clinton work for Proxmire for awhile? Maybe it was some other gun-grabber.

2. True "assault weapons"--ie., fully automatic weapons--have been forbidden to private citizens without permit since the reign of Roosevelt the 2nd and the National Firearms Act of 1934..

3. I think history will be kinder to GWB than you are. But I also think that not enough history is in the books yet to make a final determination.

At least there is no further gun control legislation on the horizon that has any chance of passage.

Regards, Vince

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#40641 - 05/19/05 04:45 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
stevez Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 75
Loc: Colorado
Bounty,

We all have our own methods of dealing with situations. But aside from that, can you just picture the look on her face when she opens her present? Would that not be priceless?

Steve

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#40642 - 05/19/05 04:59 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Chris:

I remember the statement of former Hollywood gun instructor to the movie industry. He said male actors who had never used firearms tend to flinch and close their eyes as the firearm goes off, female actresses with the same lack of experience didn't. Women are colder when deciding to do something even if they feel more emotional later on.

If an individual of either sex defames you, they will do it to you or someone else again, it is like the old saw of cold blooded killing being easier the second and subsequent times it is done.

If you take the "high road", you demonstrate to individuals that they can control and even expect gifts from people they intimidate without cause. If you also apologise, they will believe what they did is right. and continue do it.

I remember an old Van Heflin movie whose title I cannot remember concerning the Yugoslavs fight against the Nazi's. A man and woman from their group had been selected for perimeter guard duty and in the boredom had retreated deeper into the bushes to make love. A Nazi patrol went past their position without being noticed and by good fortune was spotted and eliminated before they could escape.

The man and woman were found guilty by the group and were judged to be executed. They were positioned on the road and as the leader of the group, Van Heflin ordered the firing squad to fire; all six shot the man. The woman was a childhood friend of Van Heflins, not a former lover. He shot her and berated his comrades for failing in their duty to protect the cause and not the individual.

If you get shot in the chest by a woman, it is not going to do any less damage to you than if you are shot by a man. The same applies if you are fired, hit, cheated, lied to, or defamed by a woman.

Bottom line, judge the act and not the actor. If the act was slanderous destroy her not only for your sake and future serenity, but also for the millions of us who could suffer the same fate from her or others like her.

I like women wheather they are mine or not, but I will not let anyone intentionally hurt me in any way.

Bountyhunter

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#40643 - 05/19/05 05:06 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Norad45:

You can thank the second most effective lobbying organization in the United States, right behind the American Medical Association (which has more money, not better lobbiests.); The NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION .

Bountyhunter

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#40644 - 05/19/05 05:13 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Stevez:

It would probably be viewed and reported by her as a backhanded threat if you are talking about sending her a knife which you know she does not like.

Sad to say, in todays political atmosphere she would probably find a sympathetic company, boss, and prosecutor, and you would end up poorer, labeled as a dangerous sociapath, and unemployed.

Forget phsychology and go for any legal juglar you have a right to pursue within reasonable costs.

Bountyhunter

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#40645 - 05/19/05 05:18 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Johnbaker:

You must be older than I am if you remember women being much more genteel than they are today.

Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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#40646 - 05/19/05 05:22 PM Re: TSA does whatever it wants to you
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
I would suggest renting Harvey with good old Jimmy Stewart and taking notes. There are to many Annikan Skywalkers succumbing to the dark Side. I' m not Catholic nor Buddhist. But I am always inspired by the example of Pope John Paul2 and his holyness the Dalai Lama. They help me a lot dealing with my fellow human beings dsiplaying the commonality of stupidity we all share to some degree. Them, classical music and a big Starbucks <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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