Well La Fuma seems to be an established company using down. One of the advantages of our international community is feedback on national products; G.B.has Snugpak, France the above and America Wiggys and Stephenson. Most everything else is, ahem, made in China from birds plotting to wipe out the world with avian influenza- not that a bag will have anymore lethality than an Altoids mint transmitting Mad Cow Disease <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I do have an adverse reaction to buying chicom goods when I can support an American family. Thats why our military uses M16s, not kalashnikovs courtesy of the people's army heavy industry plant # 22. I know this cowboy who still uses a canvas bedroll, sugans and wool blankets. I dare say hes gone down trails and been in weather just as nasty as Annapurna. My point, is that people choose bags out of tradition, familiarity, peer pressure and popularity, considerations of wieght and bulk ( and sometimes freebies from a maker's advertising dept.). If you've ever seen a mule improvise UL testing on a pretty red sleeping bag my friend's choice makes sense :grin : My criteria is simple: my bags have to perform under potentially the worse conditions imaginable. Lamilite, not poly is the culprit in those big bulky Wiggys. I KNOW I can drag a sopping wet bag from a wreck, crawl in and survive. It's been done, both in deliberate testing and real world mishaps. Someday I'll be able to afford a factory vacume packed bag, slip it in my BOB and snicker at all those bulky Snugpaks and down bags. Until then,I'll lug the beast until a down or poly bag can pass the same test. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> At the end of the day we all have to crawl into our own choice. We've literally "Made our own bed and have to sleep in it." Theres a lot of Alaskan bushpilots, commercial fishermen and Iditarod sled mushers pummeling those wiggys into a gearbag. My ancient Trailwise down bag was recycled last spring into dozens of local bird nests. the local golden eagles wanted my Wiggys, but settled on a BMW convertible top <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />