#38426 - 03/06/05 06:05 AM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Enthusiast
Registered: 01/08/04
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Loc: Centre Hall Pa
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Another con that many have against them is because of static cling they are a roal PITA to unfold. The static cling and the smooth surfaces causes them to stick together. Making it difficult to open up. Have you ever wondered how with stiff and cold fingers you could ever open it in a true emergency without tearing it to shreds?
Well the answer is a little careful preparation beforehand.
The best way is to take it outside on a calm day. Because this is a little messy so you might not want to do it in your living room. First carefully and calmly unpack and open the blanket. Give it a Very light dusting with either corn starch or baby powder. Then with care refold it back into its original configuration. Yes if you take your time it can be repacked just as small as the original package. Then it can be replaced in its carrying container for storage. It just takes some time and attention to detail.
The end result is the powder acts as a lubricant allowing it to be deployed much easier when it is needed.
Why the manufacturing companies don’t do this when packing them in the first place mystifies me. I can only suspect that them would rather save a couple of pennies than improve their product.
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#38427 - 03/06/05 08:20 AM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Registered: 10/10/01
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Anyone checked out the MPI Outdoors Extreme Pro-Tech survival vest and bag? I know it's not quite a space blanket, but almost, and it seems like it would have much better insulative properties. -john
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#38428 - 03/06/05 09:19 AM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Registered: 01/30/04
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I have the MPI Extreme Bag and it is my primary survival shelter for snowboarding, it's definitely too large for a PSK though.
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#38429 - 03/06/05 06:32 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
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If you have some cord or string with you, you can also suspend it between some sticks (etc) and use it to catch dew and rainwater. Or dig a shallow pit of suitable size and anchor the edges with rocks.
Sue
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#38430 - 03/06/05 06:57 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Registered: 02/07/05
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Loc: Stockport, Cheshire, UK
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Check out "Ranger Ricks" simple but effective mod for turning the space blanket into a poncho using good ole duct tape.
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#38433 - 03/07/05 03:28 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Let's also not forget its value as a signal panel, laid out flat on the ground or held by two people to "flash" search planes, etc. YES, space blankets are fragile, noisy, etc., etc., but for the amount of space they take up - which greatly increases people's willingness to carry them - they are way better than nothing at all.
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#38435 - 03/08/05 02:33 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Loc: Texas
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I have made some pretty cool a-frame tarp tent style shelters from the $1.99 space blankets. I have some pictures around here on a disposable camera somewhere (rarely take my digital camera in to the feild due to its weight). I guess it's time I get all these disposable cameras that I have laieing around here developed. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#38436 - 03/08/05 04:11 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Hi, Vince. Yep, thats the one. I think his site is called the Ranger Digest, its very informative. Ive converted quite afew space blankets & big orange survival bags in a similar way. The important thing to do is to have a spare stip of duct tape to close the slit for your head(thats if you cut the slit in the first place!)
regards - Stu
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#38437 - 03/08/05 05:26 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Theres nothing inherently wrong with a space blanket, just what people, users and marketers expect and believe the things can do. How many movies show the couple lost in the woods wrapped like catfish in tin foil and almost as baked? It's akin to all those skinny canvas bedrolls tied off to John Wayne's saddle. A real period bedroll is a monster requiring a pack horse or dedicated wagon <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Obviously a space blanket in a pocket is better than a Hudson's Bay blanket for carry. It's knowing you have to create that striped classics insulative value with additional resources most people don't understand.
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#38438 - 03/08/05 05:51 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Couldnt agree more! People expect the space blanket to have "magical properties" IMHO the most valuable thing about the foil blanket is the fact that its waterproof & windproof, and lets face it, Its better than nothing!!
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#38439 - 03/08/05 06:07 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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I was tent camping with a friend many years ago and found myself unprepared for a sudden drop in temperature. I dug out a cheapo space blanket and unfolded it. It made enough crackly noise to wake my friend, who told me to be sure that I "fluffed it up enough to provide warmth".
No matter where you go or what circumstances you endure, there always seems to be a comedian around. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Sue
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#38440 - 06/27/05 07:15 AM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Registered: 10/10/01
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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Anyone checked out the MPI Outdoors Extreme Pro-Tech survival vest and bag? I know it's not quite a space blanket, but almost, and it seems like it would have much better insulative properties.
Any more info on the MPI Extreme Pro-Tech vest and bag? Thanks, -john
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#38441 - 06/28/05 07:04 PM
HD Space blanket and 7' trash bag
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Registered: 04/05/05
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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I would like to see some photographs of shelters made with a space blanket. The only use I have put one to so far is to put it under me in a tent and make some shade by duct taping it to two poles. It seems too small and frail to make a shelter with.
I think a 7’ jumbo trash bag might be more useful. If it is raining you can stand in it and pull it over your head. You can use it as a ground sheet. You could split it in half and make an A-frame or L shaped lean-to shelter with part under you and part over you. You could make a tube tent out of it. You can put leaves in it to make a blanket. You can put snow in it and place it on a dark surface to make water. Smaller trash bags are not as useful. There is the Coghlan’s Emergency Bag and the Survival and Outdoor Safety trash bag. I have tried both. The SOS bag is thinner and folds smaller. The MPI heavy duty Space Blanket and a 7’ trash bag make for a great survival shelter. Add about 15’ of cord and 6 small steel tent stakes and you can slap up a shelter in a matter of minutes. These items easily fit in my CamelBack Blowfish aka survival bag.
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#38442 - 06/28/05 07:59 PM
Re: HD Space blanket and 7' trash bag
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A-Frames are the only things I have done with them (when using them by themselves) but that's enough to justify carrying one for me. I'm not trying to make any space blanket wilderness mansions or anything. Just something to provide a little shade during the day and maybe keep the ticks from landing on me as they fall out of the trees while I sleep in the summer and something to keep me dry and/or reflect heat in the winter. That being said, I agree there are better options. My preference is the Storm Shelter Instant Pocket Tent but often enough is the space blanket that goes with me do to is light weight and extreme compactness.
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#38443 - 06/28/05 09:19 PM
Re: In defense of the humble Space Blanket
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Registered: 05/03/05
Posts: 133
Loc: Central Mississippi
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My observations based on personal use of this item:
1. They are wind-proof. 2. They are good at reflecting heat. 3. They suck in blocking conductive heat transfer (i.e. butt-to-cold ground). 4. Whenever you move, they sound like you are wadding up a patato chip bag.
So, from a heat transfer standpoint, their performance is adequate in blocking 2 of the 3 heat transfer modes (radiation and convection) and are inadequate in conduction.
I still carry them, but you have to have something else to put between you and the cold, hard ground.
Your mileage may vary.
Jim
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#38445 - 06/29/05 09:34 PM
Re: HD Space blanket and 7' trash bag
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Registered: 04/05/05
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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Is the storm shelter a tube tent?
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#38448 - 06/30/05 05:16 AM
Re: HD Space blanket and 7' trash bag
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Registered: 07/28/04
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Loc: Texas
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Except about 10% or the weight and bulk. I have owned one of those too. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#38450 - 06/30/05 08:55 PM
Re: HD Space blanket and 7' trash bag
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Loc: Texas
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I'll check when I get home to see if it's marked on the label. I have one that is still in its original packaging. I can tell you its nowhere neare the 2.5mil on the coghlan's tube tent. It feels more like a thick trash bag.
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