#36443 - 01/15/05 10:10 PM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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That's when you dump her out in the middle of the wilderness on a cold day with only her purse. Come back in about 8 hours <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Seriously though, some people just won't be convinced.... keep trying though
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#36445 - 01/16/05 12:25 AM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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I wouldn't mind a parachute <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#36446 - 01/16/05 03:13 AM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
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Some people react to disaster scenarios by simply refusing to believe it could happen to them. They feel if they allow themselves to think it could happen to them, it will.
It's like the young woman who was interviewed after the last power outage in the northeast: If you prepare for it, it's like admitting that it could happen again.
Some theorize that people raised on a heavy diet of television think that all problems will be solved within 30 or 60 minutes (with time deducted for commercials).
You can't do more than just keep trying.
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#36447 - 01/16/05 04:04 AM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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A bottle of water is heavy and bulky, so I wouldn't expect anyone to carry one unless they expected to use it.
The photon is another matter. All I can think of is to emphasis the non-emergency uses. I use my LEDs several times a week, just casually. A small knife is used even more often, for opening packages and doing my nails. The other core device is a whistle. Would it help to present it as a rape/mugging alarm? I reckon a hard blast on a fox-40 would give most rapists pause for thought. Even if she never gets to blow it (and I hope she never does), just having it can be a comfort sometimes; reduces the feeling of helplessness eg if she is alone and there is someone she isn't quite sure of.
The other cunning ploy is to turn it into jewelrey. I am pretty sure you can get attractive silver whistles on neck-chains. I doubt you can get one with integral blade and LED, but I could be wrong or maybe you could have it custom made. Don't be too ambitious. Any little thing could help.
Does she carry a mobile phone? They often have backlights strong enough to see by. Better than nothing anyway, if it's pitch dark. The trick is to know and remember to get it out and use it when the time comes.
Information may be the best thing you can give her. She can't leave that at home. Even if she dismisses it when you talk to her, there's a chance it will be there in her head when she needs it.
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#36448 - 01/16/05 05:38 AM
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I think light sources are very important. You need not only low powered lights for long runtime, LED's for reliability, but also some bright incandescents for long range illumination, and rechargeables for economical use. Also, you need a headlamp for hands free use in case you have to fix something, and of course you need backups in case something starts working. Here's a picture of someone properly equipped with suitable flashlights. Some people might think these are more lights than are strictly necessary, but I say it beats getting caught in the dark. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> (Source: Stainless on candlepowerforums.com)
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#36449 - 01/16/05 06:56 AM
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Does your sister have children?
If so put it on the basis is that these items will make it easier to get home to them. And that anyother preps are for them. If she has children and any maternal instincts saying it is for the children will make most women fierce converts.
If she doesn't well just keep trying.
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#36450 - 01/16/05 06:49 PM
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
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Paul, you look like a human magnet!
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#36451 - 01/16/05 09:38 PM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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That DEFINITELY qualifies as over-kill <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.
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#36452 - 01/17/05 04:41 AM
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8 hours? Im thinkin 24-36hrs. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#36454 - 01/17/05 04:46 AM
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I hope this guy has a pocket knife and a bic lighter on him too! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#36455 - 01/17/05 04:50 AM
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That is one way to be bright without additional schooling.
I'll bet his girlfriend sings, "You light up my life" quite often.
A cop will never be able to pull him over if one of his cars headlights goes out.
With all those "torches" turned on, the magnetic flux around his body must really mellow out his, and anyone around him arthritis pains.
Bountyhunter
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#36456 - 01/17/05 12:59 PM
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Registered: 01/12/04
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Loc: Stafford, VA, USA
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I have a (usable) parachute. It gets mad at me everytime I go past it because I don't use it anymore. Wife made me stop.
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#36457 - 01/17/05 02:51 PM
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Registered: 08/28/04
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With all those flashlights, it's a good thing he's wearing dark sunglasses.
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#36458 - 01/17/05 08:32 PM
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Registered: 01/21/04
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"...my wife made me stop."
Isn't that better than "Have a nice time, Honey" and rushing to the phone to call the insurance agent to up your coverage?
Sue
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#36460 - 01/19/05 03:57 PM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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Registered: 01/12/05
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I feel your pain. I have family members as well that generally turn their nose up at the whole "survival" ideal. But, while she may not be interested I tend to agree that if you keep talking the talk some of the information will sink in. At the very least the idea of a Photon on her keychain may be achievable if you frame it from the standpoint that she can find the lock on her car. Keep the faith. My cousin once scoffed at the idea of hunting..."Why would I need to..that's what stores are for". But then I got him to go with me, he made his first kill and now he is one of my best hunting partners. The message will get through. For my family it only took a couple of lengthy power outages during ice storms and tornado season to see the light. Perhaps that's all your sister needs. When it becomes real to her...she'll turn around. Good luck.
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#36461 - 01/19/05 06:24 PM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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Registered: 01/21/04
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She may be afraid of admitting to the possibility of disaster, so just try to sell it as"convenience".
Sue
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#36462 - 01/20/05 11:40 AM
Re: Trying to convince my sister
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Hehe, I like that pic a lot but it's not me. It's posted by user Stainless over at Candlepower Forums and I think it's a pic of him but I'm not sure. I thought I had credited him. It's the December pic for the CPF annual calendar.
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