Wow, where to start? First, neat idea Susan, never heard of the barbed wire stabilizers before, but it makes a lot of sense. Next, a couple of you have mentioned the "more than one cache" approach, that's my approach too. While I've got gear at home, I've also got gear in my vehicles. We're also lucky enough to have like-minded family close enough to be mutual support, but far enough away that if the problem is flood/fire/tornado, we (they) have somewhere to go to. The biggest cache is at the house in the country (my parents place) so if town/city life gets unfriendly, we've got a fall-back position. This means a quite a bit of redundancy, but keep in mind, I'm a reformed teotwawki planner (sometimes I'm not sure it's NOT right around the corner) <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />.

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