No shouthing match in public had taken place. I learned long time ago that shouting leads to panic and confusion. I was very calm thru the entire event.

Now the cop was off duty and not in uniform... First aid trainging for police officers in NYC doesn;t really consits of much since EMS units are never more than 5-10 min out or even faster if they get shot. Scene should be controlled by the highest medical authority until unfiromed unit arrives.

This wasn't a Paramedic call. It was a basic EMT call which I am for a while. Paramedic status would matter if somebody needed to take charge and it happened to be that two paramedics were on the scene.

Now I do understand your point about taking my toys and going to play in my sandbox since other kids don't want to play by my rules. The thing is that when I see gross negligence and breaking of the rules it is time to repeat clear directions one more time and since I'm not an advocator of shouting and screaming it is time to go. I can't stand besides somebody who is hurting a patient since now my cartification is on the line because of somebodys else actions.

For some people especially in NYC EMS is a afternoon hobby since they are protected by Good s. laws by volunteering which there is nothing wrong with that since I started that way but it doesn't give you much experience in the field. For some it is a profession and gateway to other stuff such as PA or Medical school. For others it's a full time job. And I honestly belive that second paramedic was a member of volunteer organization and not much experienced.

I value your word guys that's why I posted it here so I can get some opinions regardless of them being negative or positive.