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| #35492 - 12/21/04 12:57 AM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
|   Old Hand
 
 Registered:  09/19/03
 Posts: 736
 Loc:  Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Another essential is a blaze orange flag to tie to your antenna.   |  
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| #35493 - 12/21/04 01:30 AM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
|   Old Hand
 
 Registered:  03/08/03
 Posts: 1019
 Loc:  East Tennessee near Bristol
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Added for winter: Thinsulate boots, sleeping bag, ski bibs, jacket shell & liner, winter socks, & gloves.  Everything except the sleeping bag are my normal field gear if necessary for work.  About the coldest I've been was January in West Virginia when it started to rain.  
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| #35494 - 12/21/04 01:55 AM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
| Anonymous Unregistered
 
 
 
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The "Movable wicks" in survival/24 hr/48 hr candles are nothing more than short bits of COTTON pipe cleaner {synthetic cleaners just melt} bent into shape then dipped in molten wax, I've made hundreds of them myself.  A neat idea I wish I'd have been the first to think of and market,  somebody's made a killing on those things.   |  
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| #35495 - 12/21/04 02:13 AM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  01/21/04
 Posts: 5163
 Loc:  W. WA
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For the TP Heater:  is there some reason denatured alcohol isn't used?  The water in rubbing alcohol would seem counter-productive.
 Sue
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| #35496 - 12/21/04 04:28 AM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
|   Addict
 
 Registered:  12/07/04
 Posts: 530
 Loc:  Massachusetts
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I pretty much keep a "72 hour" kit in my car all the time. There are a couple prior topics that get into lists for that kind of kit pretty well. That means I have signalling, firemaking, flashlights, water, rain/wind gear, 3 days of food rations, FAK, basic gear like sharps, paracord, space blankets, repair stuff, etc. in a day pack all the time. 
 In the winter, I just add enough fleece or wool pullovers and pants for my family in a duffle bag with some old gloves and hats that we would never wear in public, <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> but, would keep us warm in an emergency. I always have some boots and a parka in the trunk. In that duffle bag I throw a bunch of handwarmers and a couple of those small firestarter logs, (there is firemaking gear in the 72 hour pack, but, I think being able to light one of those little firestarters up might be a real emotional lift for my wife and son if we broke down on some isolated road when we're driving up to a ski place in Maine or New Hampshire).
 
 I think I have enough fleece and wool stuff in there to keep warm, but, maybe a couple wool army blankets wouldn't be a bad addition as was mentioned before.
 
 For communication, I always have a cell phone, but, I also keep a handheld FM amateur radio and a repeater directory in the car. There are plenty of places that the cell phone is dead, but, you can usually find a repeater that you can hit on 2M or 70CM. (Just in case)
 
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| #35498 - 12/21/04 03:50 PM  soda can stove |  
| Anonymous Unregistered
 
 
 
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Just a guess, but I think dehatured EtOH is more combustable or fast burning. Just a guess.
 Speaking of denatured EtOH, I always have a soda can stove, water, and my 1 liter titanium pot in my car 3 seasons of the year. I also carry one in my survival kit in the winter when I ice climb or mountaineer.
 
 A buddy of mine tested my soda can at everest base camp ~17,000 ft., and it worked great. I have personally used it effectively up to 14,500 ft.
 
 Burns 10-12min and brings a liter of water to a boil, 170 F at sealevel, starting at RT, in about 8 min. or less. Great item to have. The stove, the fuel (6 ounces or 10 uses), and the pot stand all fit it a stuff sack 3.5" across, 4" high. The big plus is that it only weighs a few ounces without the fuel. I haven't used my MSR "lite-weight" white gas backpacking stove in 3 years- just too dang heavy and hard to light compared to the soda can stove.
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| #35500 - 12/21/04 05:21 PM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
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 Registered:  11/14/03
 Posts: 1224
 Loc:  Milwaukee, WI  USA
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If denatured alcohol uses acetone, wouldn't that affect the plastic can cover used to seal the toilet paper heater when it is not being used?
 Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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| #35501 - 12/21/04 05:36 PM  Re: Being winter is upon us..... |  
|   Old Hand
 
   Registered:  08/28/04
 Posts: 835
 Loc:  Maple Grove, MN
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When I first read the term "TP heater", I thought it was a device that pre-heats the TP prior to use. Didn't really seem like an essential survival item to me.   
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