Sam,<br><br>Actually, that's enough info for me to venture some comments. Did you see my post about Maintenance, Habits, and Additional Items? I don't think I could add much more than personal preferences to the vehicle kits that Doug has taken the time to suggest on the website. If you are interested, I would be happy to relate the other sorts of useful things that I suggest you might want to carry in/on BOTH your vehicles, based on my experiences - many learned "the hard way" <grin>.<br><br>Your vehicles sound fine to me; better than many of us probably have if they are in good working order. Disclaimer: Our current "fleet" includes three 3/4 ton Fords ranging from 77 HD to 2001 SD, a 1 ton Ford Van, and a few varied sedans I mostly don't consider suitable for BO (except the VW Fox). I've never owned a Toyota truck, and our ATVs have always been Honda. So get a grain of salt ready for the following comments...<br><br>First, your Toyota: IRRC, your '85 has the more desirable running gear, particularly with regard to the axles. I'm not a Toyota expert, so I can only repeat what little I've observed/heard. They are generally regarded as being reliable and tough little trucks - my Dad's '85 certainly is. I believe you probably have the same power train my Dad has - a carburated 4 cyl (don't remember exact displacement) - is that correct? Dad and I have taken his (2wd, btw, but it has a Warn winch on it) about everywhere in NA and the only trouble we ever had was a minor fuel system problem: 1) water in the gas (Canada), followed shortly by 2) a nearly totally obstructed fuel filter. We did NOT replace it with a factory fuel filter - a much larger unit with a water trap and drain was what we put on it after we got back to civilization. Out there, we had to eliminate the fuel filter with a piece of copper tubing and twice dump water out of the carb bowl. Since I had trouble with water in the gas EVERY time I transited Canada to Alaska, all my vehicles from that era (I still drive two of them) were "modified" in the field with an ice pick - I hammered a hole in the low point of the gas tank and plugged it with a sheet metal screw shoved thru a scrap of rubber (piece of hose used as a gasket) so I could drain water out of the tank, should it appear. The solution on my Dad's Toyota is more elegant. Dad's truck has 175,000+ miles on it now and it simply has not ever had any other problem, period. So if yours is in decent mechanical shape, it should be a good multi-purpose vehicle.<br><br>Birfield joints break. That's a fact of small Toyota 4wd life, near as I can tell. I have never personally fixed one, but I have seen it done in the woods. If you know all about them, you're set. Otherwise, you might want to look into that - possible carry a spare and the tools to change it out. If so, a practice session in the driveway probably beats doing it for the first time "out there". I don't really know anymore about that, but perhaps someone else on the forum does and can speak to it with some authority.<br><br>My only comment about your ATV is "Be careful!" I bought my first one in January 1983 (Honda Big Red & still have it), and I have the aches, pains, and previously broken bones to prove it. It seems that the more you "need" an ATV, the more trouble presents itself. We've stuck with Hondas, but as far as I have heard, the Grizz is reliable. Just be careful... I've become very unenamored of ATVs off "road", although in the past I have taken some incredible cross-terrain long distance trips on them into truely remote areas, including swimming rivers with my Big Red and submarining rivers with 4 wheeled Honda ATVs (all done legally, I hasten to add). <br><br>I feel that ATVs extend one's ability to get farther up some cruddy "jeep trail" or old logging road, but these days I'd rather walk than take mine off-road. Just passing on some hard-earned experience... and a little environmental guilt, I suppose. Oh, one other comment: strictly opinion, but I feel strongly that the lack of a low range is NOT compensated for with bigger engines. The older Hondas with low range are better than the later ones sporting larger engines - displacement is no substitute for the low-speed hairy situation control that a low range gives one. If you don't have low range on your Grizz, be extra extra careful... We will not get rid of our older Hondas for that one reason.<br><br>Having said that - have you set yourself up to pull your trailer with your ATV? If you lose your Toyota and still have "road" that you need to travel, that's a very slick way to haul in more things than you can pile on the ATV, especially if you are riding double. In fact, I feel that done correctly, a passenger is safer in a trailer than riding double - easier to bail out (uphill side) if something bad happens. We've had good experiences with ATVs used as "trailer tractors" on crappy roads. A come-along and a good length of small diameter galvanized aircraft cable can be very useful with or without the trailer. I do not recomend nylon rope, even static line, for use with a come-along unless that's all you've got - too much danger; even static line stores energy and can release it with lethal results. Cable is less convenient but safer.<br><br>Last comment - I suggest you also be prepared to walk. Sometimes that's really the best way; sometimes that's the only way.<br><br>Hope that helps.<br><br>Scouter Tom