Thanks for the info. I had thought that the Stormproof was an exception to this somewhat common weakness in these type of lighters. I thought I read that in a review written by Doug but I could be wrong. I have read every single one of Doug's equipment reviews but it has been a while since I read most of them and my memory does have a habit of failing me. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I'll have to research this some more. Of course this is also the reason (among others) for my wanting to carry a backup firestarter.