Larry,<br><br>The cleaning kit in a buttstock or handle trap door is a good call. Especially for a "survival" situation. Where all you want is the essentials. However for a long term kit, ie with all the stuff you need to do a really good job, there is no way it would fit. <br><br>So it comes down to the type of weapon, assault/military or civilian. Most assault style rifles I've seen have a compartment for a cleaning kit. Most civilian weapons I've seen do not. <br><br>It also comes down to your plan for the weapon. Short term protection/hunting which means you need only the essentials, and the "buttstock" kit would be fine. Or a long term "end of the world" bag where you need a decent quality kit. <br><br>It's your choice which one works for you. I'm not specifically advocating either. My biggest point is related to the purpose of the website. To get somebody who doesn't know much about anything survival, and educate them. I've seen at least one example of somebody putting together a kit, with little or no information, setting up a kit with a firearm. That's all fine well and good, but no mention of a cleaning kit is on this site. Blows me away. The plane crash survival plan is another big piece of this site. What are the odds that the weapon will be clean after impact? And on a plane, where temperatures change a lot, condensation on the weapon might be an issue (I'm not a pilot, I don't know). Wouldn't it be worth while to include just a little bit in the right section relating to proper care and maintenance? The last thing you want when you really need it, is a rusted out, nasty weapon. That's just asking for trouble.<br><br><br>Brian,<br><br>Did you say IN the chowhall. Holy Sh*T. I've heard about a few accidentals here but haven't witnessed one yet. Which chow hall was it. I'm on Eagle Base, is that what your referring to as "Tuzla?" Commanche is also technically in the Tuzla area. Was anybody hurt or did it just blow a hole in the ceiling or something?<br><br>When were you over here?<br><br>