#32310 - 09/29/04 03:08 PM
Re: 'Survivor' and Fire Starting
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Pooh-Bah
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holland ? nope.
BBC 2 does have a a series about bushcraft, by ray mears. 8 pm thursdays ( uk time ).
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#32311 - 09/29/04 04:18 PM
Re: 'Survivor' and Fire Starting-Chickens
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Registered: 08/07/02
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Loc: NM
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bountyhunter, your post brought back a pleasant memory for me. I was living with my Grandmother in Sheridan Illinois when I was about 6 years old. (Bless her heart, she died at 62 from Lung Cancer and never smoked a day in her life) Anyway, she asked me to go catch a chicken and chop its head off so she could show me how to prepare it for dinner. I had never done it before, but wanted Grandma to be proud of me. Out I went, managed to catch a chicken, took the trusty hatchet and couldn't get the chicken to keep its head still so I could do the right thing. AFTER several attempts, I went in and told Grandma about it. She took me back out and DEMONSTRATED (people still don't believe me, but it works).Take the chicken, plump it breast down on the ground, sorta stretch it head out so its beak is on the ground, take a stick drawing a line in the dirt from the beak for about a foot. That darn bird lies there just as quiet as can be and WHACK. Then it gets up and starts running. I'll never forget that moment with my Grandma. Been a long time since I thought of it, tho.
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#32312 - 09/29/04 08:44 PM
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Registered: 08/22/01
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Well, in the first season, the Navy Seal (Rudy) was never voted off as such, he was one of the last three contestants and he lost an immunity challenge. By that time it was pretty much everyone was trying to outmaneuver the other two.
The ex-USAF survival instructor, who is apparently the only contestant ever on the show to get a fire started, was the first person voted off, not because she was a liability, but because she was a threat. (Prior to that, everyone who was voted off was "the weakest link", to plagiarise another show.)
But I never bothered watching the last couple of episodes of the first season, and I've never watched any of the subsequent seasons.
If you're going to watch it, then you should simply accept that it's not about survival as we discuss it here; it's about tribal politics. If that turns your crank, fine; if not, don't watch it.
(It was apparent from the first few episodes that many of the season one contestants had read up on survival skills - they knew, at least in theory, how a fire plough worked, for example - but had no idea of how difficult it was to do in real life without having practised it.)
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#32314 - 10/08/04 01:53 PM
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Registered: 07/28/04
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LOL sounds like an episode I might have actually mildly enjoyed. I have seen a person crack oyster shells in their hand like that with a machete and he would talk to you while he did it, often looking right at you rather than the shell in his hand that he was wacking with the machete. It was pretty neat to watch. Obviously that guy has cracked A LOT of shells with that machete. Of course it's not like it was exactly razor sharp either. <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#32315 - 10/09/04 07:17 AM
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Registered: 09/10/04
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I have noticed one recurring thing in the survivor series. The people they pick must be the most poorly prepared people in the world. Seriously, where do they find them? If I knew I was going to spend 40 days with no help out in the middle of nowhere, I would make is a point to prepare myself as much as possible. Actually, I am trying to prepare myself now, and I don't even plan to go anywhere. I know that they are restricted as to what they can take with them, but they aren't restricted as to what they can learn before they go. Why aren't they studying up on what kinds of edible and other useful plants will be in the areas that they are going to? How come no one knows this? How come no one can make a snare? Why hasn't it occured to anyone to make a pair of boot laces out of 550 cord? If you made them long enough, you could cut one and use it for both boots. That would free the other up for your bow&drill, bow string, snare, fishing line, whatever...
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#32317 - 10/11/04 02:38 PM
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LOL .. see video games sometimes do teach valuable life lessons. When armed with spear, hunting hippos is a bad idea! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#32318 - 10/13/04 03:19 PM
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I like the chicks in swimsuits
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