The funny thing is that when I asked the original question I wasn't really even considering defense as a factor. I was just trying to decide whether to carry my RSK, Juice KF4 or SOG Powerlock for EDC. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Defense is kind of a non-issue. I have it ingrained in me from bazillions of hours of training to respond with equal (or even less) force than is put upon me, so odds are that in a defense situation that I can not or will not run from, I'm not getting ruthless and bloody with a knife. I'm either going with hands/feet for restaint or non leathal weapons (if any). If lethal force is actually needed it's coming from my sidearm...not a knife. Like I said... The funny thing is that when I asked the original question I wasn't really even considering defense as a factor. I was just trying to decide whether to carry my Benchmade RSK, Leatherman Juice KF4 or SOG Powerlock for EDC in an effort to be well prepared for an unexpected urban/suburn survival situation. One where I might have to travel 20 miles on foot to get from work to home...etc. I'm sure Flippy will have some comment about how ridiculous this is but I can ignore that as I have done in the past. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> The multi-tools certainly have lots of uses but I can fashion a lot of what I need with a good *strong* blade like the one on the RSK and it is a lot lighter than any multi-tool worth its salt <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Kinda funny how the thread evolved though. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> heheheh.....