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#31190 - 09/05/04 07:42 PM Re: frances
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If you can, remove the sliding portion of the casement window, measure the opening, and place the largest standard window A/C unit you can fit in there.


I misunderstand. For me, a "Casement" window is one that swings open via a crank. I don't know of any sliding portion.

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You could also remove the whole window and use plexiglas where the A/C ends.


An interesting idea. Removal of the window however is problematic. The option I was looking for was merely breaking out one pane of the casement window (an 11" x 23" rectangle) and trying to fit a tiny unit in there, or at least duct to that opening from the condenser side.

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Because of the way you will have to mount it, be sure it has support on the outside so it doesn't tip out and fall. If you need an extension cord to plug to your outlet, buy those specifically made for heavy use and buy the shortest cord that will work. You will be suprised how hot the plug portion gets when using an extension cord. I have a 9 foot 14 gage for my bedroom A/C and it gets really warm, but not hot where the A/C is plugged into it.


Noted and agreed. I'd usually run 12-guage to a major appliance anyway, which I'd classify an A/C unit as. Is there significant loss to using larger wire?

Anyway, Frances is now twenty miles from my doorstep and closing, so I'm going to end this post before I lose cable.

Three wire 12 guage is what I'll probably go with, as you recommended. I'm just wondering about the 11" x 23" space issue..do they make an A/C unit small enough to fit one of those?

Panz

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#31191 - 09/05/04 07:44 PM Re: frances
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Two storms like this in one month? Rough. Good luck!


Try three. Look at Hurricane Ivan, already a Cat 3, headed for the Caribbean.

We're looking to have an active hurricane season this year, yup yup.

Panz

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#31192 - 09/06/04 02:01 AM Re: frances
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Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 38
Loc: Old Colony, USA
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... merely breaking out one pane of the casement window (an 11" x 23" rectangle) and trying to fit a tiny unit in there, or at least duct to that opening from the condenser side.


Pardon me for butting in... could you mean, an awning type window. You know you crank, crank, crank, four or five separate panes of glass swing out.

Just my 2¢
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#31193 - 09/06/04 04:59 AM Re: frances
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Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Panzerboy:

You are right about casement windows, I was thinking of sideways sliding windows that used to be all the rage.

Crank windows are a pain for conversion. I would go with leaving them cranked open and making a modified plexiglas window with a cutout for mounting the A/C unit, unless there is a high wind or security consideration.

Larger wire means LESS resistance. Multi-strand copper wire is better than solid wire because it offers less resistance. An electrician hereabouts said the current flows on the outside of each wire so multiple strands mean less resistance. Doesn't sound right to me, but he has the electricians license and I don't.

Regarding window A/C size, I don't know about your neck of the woods, so take a tape measure to the local store and see if the size is available. Menard's home improvement center up here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin was clearing out 5,000 BTU window A/C's for $59.99 last week when I was in there.

Good luck!

Bountyhunter

(P.S. My brother called from Florida to tell me he, the wife, and their daughter are bugging out and that they will check back in with me when they do come home.)

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#31194 - 09/06/04 08:13 AM Re: frances
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Registered: 05/25/04
Posts: 153
Loc: California
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An electrician hereabouts said the current flows on the outside of each wire so multiple strands mean less resistance. Doesn't sound right to me, but he has the electricians license and I don't.


That doesn't sound quite right to me either. I work on aircraft communication and navigation equipment so I had to learn some theory about RF (Radio Frequency) energy. It is true that alternating current will travel on the outside of the line. However this effect is almost negligible at 60 Hz, it is only important when dealing with the MHz range and above. Also, whether the wire has multiple strands or not shouldn't matter.

Robert

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#31195 - 09/06/04 04:28 PM Re: frances
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Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 924
Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
So how many of us are still convinced there's no such thing as "global warming"?

(Whatever scientist coined the term "global warming" should be shot. They should have called it "global thermal climate destabilisation" or something - anything - that didn't sound so warm and fuzzy.) <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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#31196 - 09/06/04 11:35 PM Re: frances
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I like the moniker, Panzerboy.

WJW's Hard Wired? Classic, 2 copies on hand, one hard.

Many moons ago, when giants roamed the earth, I ran a BBS named the Gentleman Loser.

PL


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#31197 - 09/07/04 12:39 AM Re: frances
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
This evening, I heard on french radio Ivan is now a class 4, and should hit Ste Lucy Island within the next 48hrs.
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#31198 - 09/07/04 01:04 AM Re: frances
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Absolutely correct. Big fan of WJW. Actually wrote to him and got two responses back before he told me to politely take a long walk off a short pier.

I also used to run "The Mail" (Armored Car Driver/Jumper) and was "in it for the ride, not for the cargo"...

BTW, we're back up and running here. Net just came up an hour ago. Had to transfer power back from the genny to the Grid.

Bounty, about those 5000 BTU units...you think one of them would fit those dimensions? And where? I bet they'll be on clearance after the storm as people aren't going to give a RAT's BUTT about air conditioning when they're repairing their houses...at least, I don't think.

Panz

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#31199 - 09/07/04 01:42 PM Re: frances
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…and now that Frances has gone, the shepple are whining and [censored] because civilization has not been put back exactly the way it was within 24 hours. Was listening to NPR this morning and a woman was complaining that she couldn’t buy food, because she had no cash, because the ATMs weren’t working, AND she had had to stand in line to get bottled water and ice. Hello! You’re living in a part of the world that the hurricane god has painted a big bull’s eye on! If you don’t want to be prepared to deal with it, move.

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