forseeable future? i think forever would be more accurate. don't expect things to go back to the way they were pre 9-11... at least not in our lifetime.

Brian:

If you keep thinking like that, you will help create a facist country.

Don't be so afraid of the system that you refuse to fight for the America that should be.

Do you want to live forever? The bad guys can only kill you once.

Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Do you want to live forever? The bad guys can only kill you once.
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Hehehaha... I like that one. That can be applied to a lot in life. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Many things will never be the same, but realistically, I think the knee jerk and assinine airport security will eventually tire of itself. I refuse to believe we now and forevermore live in a world where nailclipers are threatning to the skys.

I hope youre right but if asked to bet money on it, I'd keep my coins in my pocket.

Nic:

You must be very young or schools have not been allowed to teach everything anymore.

Income tax was supposed to be a "temporary thing".

Start voting the "PRO TSA" supporters out of office, and it will change, otherwise you will start getting arrested soon for having a pocket knife on the streets of America.

Bountyhunter

Dude your preaching to the chior, Im just saying in this particular instance (overly strict and unrealistic airport security) i think common sence will eventually win out. Not that it will because its a good idea, but just because the further the memory is in the past and the more tiresome the whole drama of the security check line gets people will just stop carring. Airport employees will sign a collective "meh..." sometime around 2010 and will make the assumption that a 52 year old guy with a wife and two kids on his arm probably isn't going to take out the plane with dollar store swiss army knife.

I totally agree that this american administration has taken advantage of a very real tradgady and a very real threat to just write themselves a blank cheque and erode all civil rights. Im not opposed at all to the war on terror, I just wish we targeted freakin terrorist instead of unrealated countries under a pretense of lies and your own public. Does anybody remember Osama bin Laden? Anyone remember the Saudies? ahhh, Im not gonna get into this, sorry, it just frustrates me a lot.

Funny,

The same people who complain about increased security are the same who would cry foul if another 911 came around because security hadn't increased. You can't have it both ways.


Is ariport security an inconvenience? Yes

Is slamming into office towers at 300MPH listening to "praise to allah" in your final moments an inconvenience? Yes

Have liberties been taken too far by the gvnmt? Yes

Are Memories short? Yes

Would I rather have a dollar store SAK taken away from a father of 2?
Yes

Are there other modes of transport for people who don't like their liberties of flying with knives taken away ? Y es

Should grandma's knittting needles be taken away? NO!

Do I feel safer on a plane knowing there are no blades? Yes

For what its worth

Flip

"I totally agree that this american administration has taken advantage of a very real tradgady and a very real threat to just write themselves a blank cheque and erode all civil rights."

Would you please explain to me exactly what civil rights you have had taken away by the Bush administration? Please be specific.

Vince

Vince, I've sent you a PM in response detailing some of the civil rights that have been damaged by this administration. Not wanting to hijack this forum with a bunch of political bickering unrelated to this forums purpose, if you want to reply, please send a PM.

As for what Flipper said, I get tired of people insinuating your somehow a traitor or crybabby when you point out foolishness. If you feel better that mothers and seniors are having their kitting needels confisicated at the security counter good for you. Im not going to bother trying to convince you that these steps are probably little more than the eye candy appearance of security. Domestic security lies with good international policy and strong but fair laws more than it does with making sure toothpicks are safely stowed in the aft compartment. Again though, if you want to talk politics I would be happy to if we do it with PMs rather than on the board proper.