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#30964 - 08/29/04 09:15 PM Locking Folders
NealO Offline
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Registered: 11/18/02
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Loc: SF Bay Area, California
Recently I was teaching a group of Scouters (adults who work with Scouts) basic knife skills - safety, sharpening, etc.

Naturally, I included by strong bias in favor of locking folders. I was surprised when one student expressed that he had been told by others that locking folders were, in fact, *more* dangerous than the more conventional, non-locking pocket knives.

Since he had just "heard" it, he wasn't much of a champion of the position.

So I'm asking here if anyone else has heard, or even believes, that locking folders are somehow more dangerous. I am interested in the basis/arguments in favor of the "more dangerous" point of view.

Thanks,

/Neal

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#30965 - 08/29/04 09:43 PM Re: Locking Folders
Paul810 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 1428
Loc: NJ, USA
Never heard that one, everything I have ever learned is the more it locks the safer it is. From the other point of view though I guess learning with a non-locking knife will teach you good habits, like not completely trusting a lock.

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#30966 - 08/29/04 10:21 PM Re: Locking Folders-Fixed blade hilt or no hilt?
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
While we are on the subject of knives again, chime in on this area.

I tend to be partial to hilt style knives, at least on the sharp edge side rather than having finger groves with no hilt on a fixed blade knife.

Opinions, and why.

Bountyhunter

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#30967 - 08/29/04 10:51 PM Re: Locking Folders-Fixed blade hilt or no hilt?
Anonymous
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Well bounty, it all depends on what I'm doing with the knife. A guard hasn't got any business on a small skinning knife, however, I've seen 14 inch Bowies without guards that made me laugh out loud. There's really is no good single knife, two at least, and I prefer three... a small skinner/filet knife, a general purpose folder/pocket knife, and a big beefy blade to finish up, a Bowie or a machete. Although, I once had a six pound butchers cleaver that served me well and pleased me to no end... think of a short handled battle axe... <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

Troy

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#30968 - 08/30/04 01:49 AM Re: Locking Folders-Fixed blade hilt or no hilt?
Anonymous
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I've never heard of any particularly dangerous asspects of locking knives, no more so than any edged implement. Probably just vapour.

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#30969 - 08/30/04 12:33 PM Re: Locking Folders
boatman Offline
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Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 424
Loc: Michigan
I have seen people let a lock blade get a lot more dull then non locking knifes.I think this is due to the fact that they can be a little more forceful with the edge.IMHO a sharp knife is a safe knife.Reguardless if it locks or not.

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#30970 - 08/30/04 04:37 PM Re: Locking Folders
dogplasma Offline
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 34
Loc: Michigan
I heard this in conjunction with a recent story about legislation proposed in Michigan to ban multi-bladed locking knives. It began when a Detroit gas station was found to be selling these mall-ninja triple-bladed throwing-star looking deals to minors. Idiots began dealing with other idiots and the above proposal was the result.

One attorney was heard to argue that the lack of a locking device made it difficult/impossible to use a certain knife as an offensive weapon, and thus constituted a 'safety feature'.

Rob


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#30971 - 08/31/04 03:55 PM Re: Locking Folders-Fixed blade hilt or no hilt?
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Wildcard163:

Even on a small skinnig knife, I prefer a hilt because you are usually bloodied, with animal fat and hair on your hands and the knife. If skinning a large animal, you will have a tendency to hold the knife in different ways as you work on a hanging carcass or one you are kneeling next to compared to having a table where you can swing the carcass around for ease of access. I don't generally hold a knife in a hard "death grip" when skinning or filleting, so a depression, even with knurling for slip resistance doesn't impress me. The "solid wall" effect of a hilt stopping my fingers and hand from slipping forward onto the cutting edge just feels so much safer to me.

Bountyhunter

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#30972 - 08/31/04 04:12 PM Re: Locking Folders
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
That's the first I have ever heard that. Sounds pretty absurd to me. <img src="/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
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#30973 - 08/31/04 09:59 PM Re: Locking Folders-Fixed blade hilt or no hilt?
Anonymous
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I follow your reasoning, I've just always been more comfortable with a "straight blade" for light or touchy work, guess that's why they make different shapes & styles (and wouldn't it be boring without them) <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

Troy

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