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#30791 - 08/26/04 12:27 AM Surviving Minnesota
ChristinaRodriguez Offline
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Registered: 02/24/03
Posts: 324
Loc: Rhode Island
Hello everyone,

I've learned alot from this site and really appreciate all of you who have answered my posts before with great advice. You've all inspired me to be better prepared for a number of situations, and thanks to this site I went and got certified in CPR and First Aid.

Well, I'm getting married next year and moving to Minnesota. I'm trying to prepare myself for marriage and living in a place that I pretty much know nothing about save that it gets really cold in the winter. Does anyone have any advice for surviving near the Twin Cities? I'm open to anything: tips for dealing with the cold, marriage advice, how to fend off a raging caribou -- pretty much whatever you helpful guys can think of.

Thanks for all of your help!
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#30792 - 08/26/04 12:52 AM Re: Surviving Minnesota
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Find your local NPR radio station and tune into the program "A Prairie Home Companion" <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

That should cover it.

Chris

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#30793 - 08/26/04 05:16 AM Re: Surviving Minnesota
aardwolfe Offline
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Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 924
Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
Don't worry about the cold, just ease into it and don't do anything stupid. If you're in a large city (you mentioned the Twin Cities) the biggest problem you're likely to face is going to be the rapid changes going from the cold outdoors to a heated shopping mall and back again; if you're dressed for the mall, you won't be dressed warmly enough for the outdoors, and if you're dressed for the outdoors you'll be sweating up a storm in the mall.

Dress in layers; tearaway pants and a couple of sweaters can be removed in public without getting anyone too excited.

Biggest mistakes people make in winter is underdressing because (a) they're in the car, or (b) it's only a short walk.

Always make sure you have warm clothing in the car in winter. Doesn't have to be new or fashionable; in fact it's probably better if it isn't as otherwise you might be tempted to wear it. Stains are okay but it shouldn't be soiled. (My brother was the town doctor in Inuvik for a few years; he always carried a $500 down sleeping bag in the trunk of his car just in case he broke down. Only had to use it once, driving back from Aklavik, when both front tires on his car shattered from the extreme cold. But you won't encounter temperatures like that anywhere in the US except for Alaska.)

Don't underestimate the cold. Cold does kill people every year - a co-worker of mine lost his teenage son last year when the boy decided to walk home from a friend's house wearing a Jean jacket, blue jeans, and running shoes in temperatures of -30. After all, it was only a 10-minute walk.... (His body was found the next day, only 100 yards from a row of houses.) But it's almost always because they take it for granted; after all, it's never killed them before <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Otoh, if you know how to dress properly and take care of yourself, camping in the winter can be quite fun. Millions of people live through the winter every year and we don't live in dread of the first snowfall, or find it a Herculean effort to survive until spring.

Speaking of snow, the other big mistake that gets people killed is driving the same speed after (or during) a fresh snowfall as you do in the height of summer. Slow down and let the other drivers weave in and out of traffic, trying to make up for lost time.

Don't try to keep your feet warm by wearing extra socks and then cramming your feet into the same size shoes as you wear in summer; you'll just squeeze all the insulation out of the socks and also cut off the circulation in your feet. If you're going to be outdoors for any extended period, it's best to get a good pair of boots that are maybe a half-size larger than your normal shoe size and wear extra socks inside. (Mors Kochanski, author of "Northern Bushcraft" or just "Bushcraft" depending on which edition you buy, recommends wearing three pairs of wool socks and then buying boots that fit comfortably over them.)

Marriage Advice: Get a quality 2-person sleeping bag and put it in your car. Wait for the temperature to hit -30. Make sure your husband's in the car with you. Stage a breakdown. Wait to be rescued. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

How to fend off a raging caribou: Run into the house. Wait for the caribou to follow you. Run out the back door, slamming and locking it behind you. Yell through the window to your husband "You skin that one, honey, I'll go get us another." <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#30794 - 08/26/04 01:42 PM Re: Surviving Minnesota
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
Don't forget :
Minnesota's state bird is ...... a very big mosquito !!!!!!
(well, at least, that's what was written on the T-shirts I bought in Minneapolis, some years ago)
I guess it's only partially a joke, as it's the 100 000 (did I forget a 0 ... ?!?...) lakes state.
To be sure, just count how many mosquitoes there are at 1 lake and multiply .....
And to be safe, add some DEET on your wedding present list.
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#30795 - 08/26/04 04:09 PM Re: Surviving Minnesota
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Well I cannot give you any advice on where you are moving. As to marriage, today the 26th, my wife and I are celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />, so I think I can give some advice on that topic.

Your spouse should be your best friend <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />. While you may and will most likely have some different interests, however, doing things together will foster an atmosphere of mutual understanding and respect. Find some common interests and cultivate those areas of commonality and be flexible. Things that you or he may never have thought would appeal <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> to you, may, when you have someone do those things with, really take on a different light and become interesting <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />.

Realize that you are different people <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> and that there will be things that totally annoy you <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />, just realize the same will be true for him. Those are minor issues; always keep an eye on the larger picture <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. When you decide to have a family, realize you are no longer just you guys, your interests must be put aside in the rearing of your children and the development of the family dynamics.

Never go to bed mad, that is the time your mind starts to imagine all types of scenarios <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />. You will rest much easer if you have resolved issues that may weigh heavy on the mind and can be the source for snowballing. It has been my experience that, in general men and women think and perceive things very differently <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />. When you come to a roadblock in negations, try and really listen (I know we men hear, but can not get ourselves to listen) as to what the other person is trying to convey.

You will fight <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />, except that fact and then move on to things that are really important and whatever you were fighting about will become a distant memory <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />. Here, I think men have the advantage, as we fight, get it out of the way and move on, women tend to hold a grudge for along time, again just my experiences <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />.

Always maintain a sense of humor <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

Good luck on your impending marriage. Pete

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#30796 - 08/26/04 05:13 PM Re: Surviving Minnesota
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
www.mukluks.com make the trip to Ely and get fitted properly.

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#30797 - 08/28/04 12:41 AM Re: Surviving Minnesota
ChristinaRodriguez Offline
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Registered: 02/24/03
Posts: 324
Loc: Rhode Island
Wow, Happy Silver Anniversary, Pete! And thanks to everyone who replied! I really appreciate your help, guys.
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#30798 - 08/31/04 01:18 PM Re: Surviving Minnesota
GoatRider Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 835
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
I've lived in Minnesota all my life. The most important part of surviving winter here is to learn to enjoy it. If you stay inside waiting for spring, you won't make it as a Minnesotan. Find a winter sport to enjoy, and you'll start looking forward to the white stuff! For me, it's snowboarding. There's also downhill skiing, cross-country skiing, skating, hockey, broom-ball, ice fishing, snowmobiliing. They even race cars on the frozen lakes!

In my opinion, once the temperature stays consistently below freezing, it's a lot easier to tolerate. 35 degrees and raining is about as miserable as weather gets, and if that's as cold as you're used to, you can only imagine that colder is even worse- but it's not! Below freezing you stay dry if you dress right.

Learn how to drive in snow and ice! Go to a snowy parking lot and practice driving with the hand-brake on if you've got front-wheel drive. And remember 4-wheel drive vehicle helps you get going, but it doesn't help you stop.

The real season I have trouble with is our current one- ROAD CONSTRUCTION. I think they should just shut down the entire state for a month, and everybody gets assigned to work at the nearest road crew. What we've got is pretty close to that, but they're pretending we can go about our business as usual.
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