As a kid I remember having on of the Mora style knives. The steel was rusted and pitted but nothing a wire brush couldnt handle. The thing I remember most was that when I put it on a sharpening stone the blade slid across as if on teflon. At that age I did know why, but know I'm sure it was the Rockwell hardness. My daddy could make it shave hair. Sure wish I had that early 60's vintage kinfe know. Ragnar's has some very good deals. I was wondering if all the carbon steel is the same. I have my eye on one of the commercial butcher models.