Equipped To Survive Equipped To Survive® Presents
The Survival Forum
Where do you want to go on ETS?

Topic Options
#301852 - 06/28/23 04:02 PM Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W
Doug_Ritter Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/28/01
Posts: 2218
Bearing in mind that generally editors write headlines, not the writer, but...

My friend Dean continues his write-up WRT bear encounters:

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/06/bear-sp...e-a-bear-attack
_________________________
Doug Ritter
Editor
Equipped To Survive®
Chairman & Executive Director
Equipped To Survive Foundation
www.KnifeRights.org
www.DougRitter.com

Top
#301853 - 06/28/23 09:12 PM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: Doug_Ritter]
jshannon Offline
Addict

Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 648
Loc: North Texas
Thanks, Doug. The lamestream media is definitely skewed towards bear spray being the answer to an attack.

Top
#301854 - 06/28/23 10:05 PM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: Doug_Ritter]
Phaedrus Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 3194
Loc: Big Sky Country
I generally keep bear spray with me as I think it works to ward off curious bears. But if I believe my life is in danger I'm reaching for my firearm instead.
_________________________
“I'd rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” —Richard Feynman

Top
#301855 - 06/28/23 11:36 PM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: Phaedrus]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 3000
Loc: Hot Springs Village, AR
In the region of East Texas where I reside, I need not concern myself with the presence of bears. However, we do have a population of deer that inhabit the area.

Jeanette Isabelle
_________________________
I'm not sure whose twisted idea it was to put hundreds of adolescents in underfunded schools run by people whose dreams were crushed years ago, but I admire the sadism. -- Wednesday Adams, Wednesday

Top
#301856 - 06/29/23 12:56 AM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: Doug_Ritter]
dougwalkabout Offline
Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3273
Loc: Alberta, Canada
We have had this debate many times.

Opening the article, I was expecting the usual "guns are the answer! what was the question?" Cue the face palm.

But the writer, to his credit, took a measured approach and laid out the difficulty of acquiring good data and how that can give useful guidance to us ground-pounders.

For me, north of 49, the choice is between bear spray and a long gun. I have both, but for the self-propelled traveller, from a survival perspective, the extra weight of a thunderstick is hard to justify -- dehydration and hypothermia are the genuine threats. Spray gives me an additional statistical edge, and I'll take it. Situation awareness gives me an even bigger statistical edge.

If I was travelling by motorized transport, I would have both options at hand. That's just practical.

One of the wild cards is how effectively people use firearms when under stress, and whether they train seriously for close-encounter situations. A lot of people can't hit the broad side of a barn in genuine high-stress moments. A scoped rifle set for 200 yards is a tricky thing when the target is at 30 yards and closing fast.

BTW, I hope we won't make the mistake of politicizing this as "us vs. them" issue. I can't see how that adds value in the slightest. My 2c.


Edited by dougwalkabout (06/29/23 12:59 AM)

Top
#301857 - 06/29/23 02:18 AM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: dougwalkabout]
AKSAR Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 1233
Loc: Alaska
Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
We have had this debate many times.
OMG, the old bear spray vs guns argument. This is the clearest sign yet that this forum is in End of Life Hospice!

Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
BTW, I hope we won't make the mistake of politicizing this as "us vs. them" issue. I can't see how that adds value in the slightest. My 2c.
Good luck with that! I'm out of here.
_________________________
"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more."
-Dorothy, in The Wizard of Oz

Top
#301858 - 06/29/23 02:51 AM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: Doug_Ritter]
dougwalkabout Offline
Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3273
Loc: Alberta, Canada
LOL, AKSAR, I'm an eternal optimist. laugh

Top
#302789 - Yesterday at 12:01 AM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: Doug_Ritter]
UncleGoo Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 394
Loc: CT
_________________________
Improvise,
Utilize,
Realize.

Top
#302790 - Yesterday at 09:18 AM Re: Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W [Re: UncleGoo]
Phaedrus Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 3194
Loc: Big Sky Country
Wow! Talk about nerves of steel! shocked
_________________________
“I'd rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” —Richard Feynman

Top



Moderator:  Alan_Romania, Blast, cliff, Hikin_Jim 
February
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
Who's Online
0 registered (), 988 Guests and 108 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
ReadyForUnsteady, axotugoc, eprep, Aaron_Guinn, israfaceVity
5373 Registered Users
Newest Posts
Bear Spray is Human Seasoning; Take a Gun if You W
by Phaedrus
Yesterday at 09:18 AM
How to die in the most convenient manner possible
by Jeanette_Isabelle
02/13/26 01:27 PM
Great Honking Storm Jan 2026 - Everyone Okay?
by Eugene
02/02/26 08:55 PM
Big Bear Bald Eagle Live Nest
by brandtb
01/28/26 02:31 PM
I Turn Forty
by Jeanette_Isabelle
01/26/26 01:32 PM
Newest Images
Tiny knife / wrench
Handmade knives
2"x2" Glass Signal Mirror, Retroreflective Mesh
Trade School Tool Kit
My Pocket Kit
Glossary
Test

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: SELECT AND USE OUTDOORS AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK. Information posted on this forum is not reviewed for accuracy and may not be reliable, use at your own risk. Please review the full WARNING & DISCLAIMER about information on this site.