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#30137 - 08/12/04 06:12 PM Re: hurricane charley
Anonymous
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Groo:

IMHO, I'd stay away from tall concrete and steel buildings...more stuff to crush you or be thrown about and kill you.

Many wood frame houses have withstood generations of hurricanes with only minor damage. The less around you to be blown about, the better off you are.

Worry more about the aftermath. 10 minutes with intact roads and no traffic and emergency services running is a LOT different than with debris-ridden streets, looters and armed predators about, before authority steps in...

..so while considering where to ride the storm out for the storm itself is a consideration...remember that you only have to survive for about 12 hours under those conditions, during which time your actual control over your environment will be restricted to location, location, location.

It will be the aftermath where your preparations and forethought will decide whether you are comfortable or a victim, or somewhere in between.

This is just what I saw in the aftermath of Andrew.

I wasn't there for the storm. I was there for 2 weeks helping keep businesses (banks, actually) from being looted and robbed in the interim before emergency services were established on a consistent basis.

What I'm saying is, where you weather the storm, while important, is equally as important as where and how much your supply stash is.

Secure your gear.

Panz

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#30138 - 08/12/04 08:27 PM Re: hurricane charley - update
Anonymous
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Teco done us dirty somehow and lowered their power output. Computer wouldn't boot and my A/C began to fry, so I have already switched over to emergency power. If I didn't have a generator, my power would already be out.

No A/C, but this is nothing new for us. Sarah is gonna be PISSED. The good news is the cold showers will feel really good.

And now, for the weather:

From Ruskin:
Quote:

TBWHLSTBW
WTUS82 KTBW 121906
HLSTBW
FLZ039-042-043-048>052-055>057-060>062-065-122200-

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE CHARLEY LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
301 PM EDT THU AUG 12 2004

...INTENSIFYING HURRICANE CHARLEY MAY BE A DANGEROUS THREAT TO THE
SUNCOAST FRIDAY...
...HURRICANE WARNINGS LIKELY TO BE ISSUED BY 5 PM TODAY...

...THE HURRICANE WATCH CONTINUES FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS:

CHARLOTTE CITRUS
DE SOTO HERNANDO
HILLSBOROUGH LEE
LEVY MANATEE
PASCO PINELLAS
SARASOTA


INCLUDING...
THE COASTAL WATERS FROM BONITA BEACH TO SUWANEE RIVER...
CHARLOTTE HARBOR...AND TAMPA BAY.

...STORM LOCATION...
AT 2 PM EDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS LOCATED NEAR 20.4
NORTH...81.5 WEST...OR ABOUT 515 MILES SOUTH OF TAMPA. CHARLEY WAS
MOVING TO THE NORTHWEST AT 17 MPH...AND IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO
MOVE AT AROUND THIS SPEED WHILE GRADUALLY TURN TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST
OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 18 HOURS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED
TO 105 MPH...AND ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS EXPECTED AS THE STORM
MOVES OUT OF THE CARIBBEAN AND INTO THE GULF. MINIMUM CENTRAL
PRESSURE WAS 980 MB...28.94 INCHES.

...STORM SURGE FLOOD AND STORM TIDE IMPACTS...
WITH CHARLEY EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY...THEN ACCELERATE...ALONG THE
SUNCOAST...THE THREAT OF A RAPIDLY DEVELOPING STORM SURGE IN THE
STORM'S SOUTHERN SEMICIRCLE IS GREAT. CURRENT INDICATIONS SUGGEST
THE HIGHEST SURGE WILL OCCUR FROM THE COUNTIES NEAR TAMPA BAY SOUTH
TO LEE COUNTY. THE CURRENT FORECAST TRACK...SPEED...AND INTENSITY
SUGGEST STORM SURGES IN SOME AREAS EQUALLING OR EXCEEDING THOSE
EXPERIENCED IN HURRICANE DONNA IN 1960 AND THE 1944 HURRICANE EACH OF
WHICH MADE LANDFALL NORTH OF FORT MYERS...OR MORE LIKELY THE 1921
HURRICANE WHICH MADE LANDFALL IN NORTHERN PINELLAS COUNTY.

THE EXACT LOCATION AND STRENGTH OF THE SURGE SHOULD BECOME MORE CLEAR
LATER TODAY. FOR NOW...ALL COASTAL RESIDENTS SHOULD BE RUSHING TO
COMPLETION ANY LAST MINUTE PREPARATIONS THIS AFTERNOON SINCE A
WARNING WILL ISSUED THIS AFTERNOON.

IN SHORT...A SURGE OF 10 OR MORE FEET IS POSSIBLE IN THE SOUTHERN
SEMICIRCLE OF THE STORM JUST AFTER LANDFALL. FLOODING MAY BE HIGHLY
DEPENDENT ON THE TIME AND VALUE OF HIGH TIDES ON FRIDAY.

...WIND IMPACTS...
CHARLEY IS FORECAST TO INTENSIFY TO A STRONG CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE
AS IT APPROACHES THE SUNCOAST ON FRIDAY...WITH WINDS IN THE INNER
EYEWALL PERHAPS AT LEAST 110 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. HOWEVER...NO
MATTER WHERE THE CENTER CROSSES...CURRENT FORECAST DATA SUGGEST
TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS OF AT LEAST 40 MPH WILL AFFECT ALL AREAS
OF WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA BETWEEN FRIDAY MORNING AND
FRIDAY EVENING.

DETAILS ON SPECIFIC DAMAGE IMPACTS WILL BE PROVIDED AFTER HURRICANE
WARNINGS ARE ISSUED AFTER 5 PM TODAY.

...RAINFALL...
RAINFALL TOTALS OF AT LEAST 3 TO 6 INCHES ARE LIKELY BEGINNING LATE
TONIGHT AND CONTINUING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. IN ALL AREAS...THESE
RAINS WILL CAUSE SIGNIFICANT RISES IN RIVERS...CREEKS...AND STREAMS.
HOWEVER...IN AREAS NEAR TAMPA BAY WHERE SOME RIVERS ARE IN FLOOD AND
ALL RIVERS ARE RUNNING HIGH...MODERATE TO MAJOR FLOODING IS POSSIBLE
DURING AND AFTER THE PASSAGE OF CHARLEY.

FLOOD WATCHES HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR ALL OF WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

...TORNADO IMPACTS...
A TORNADO WATCH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 PM THIS EVENING FOR AREAS EAST
AND NORTH OF TAMPA BAY. THIS WATCH IS LARGELY INDEPENDENT OF
HURRICANE CHARLEY AND RELATED TO TEH INTERACTION BETWEEN TROPICAL
STORM BONNIE...NOW DECAYING WHILE RACING TOWARD THE GEORGIA
COAST...AND DEEPENING SOUTHERLY FLOW AROUND A BUILDING RIDGE OFF THE
ATLANTIC COAST.

THERE IS A RISK OF TORNADOES LATE TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING FROM
THE OUTER RAINBANDS OF CHARLEY...ESPECIALLY 50 MILES OR MORE AWAY
FROM THE CENTER OF CIRCULATION. TORNADOES WOULD BE MOST LIKELY
BEGINNING FRIDAY AND CONTINUING INTO FRIDAY NIGHT WELL EAST AND
SOUTHEAST OF THE CENTER.

THE NEXT HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT FROM THE TAMPA BAY AREA FORECAST
OFFICE WILL BE ISSUED AROUND 6 PM TODAY


Those of us in Florida are getting ready. Runs are already made on the grocery stores and Home Depot. Go if you think you must, but don't be surprised if you find you're already too late.

Most disasters are "Come as you are" affairs anyway.

Good luck to us all.

Panz

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#30139 - 08/12/04 08:46 PM Re: hurricane charley
MartinFocazio Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
avoid wood frames if you can

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#30140 - 08/12/04 08:57 PM Re: hurricane charley - update
X-ray Dave Offline
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Registered: 11/11/03
Posts: 572
Loc: Nevada
Panzerboy, at some point I'd interested to hear what last minute things you did to prepare.

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#30141 - 08/12/04 08:58 PM Re: hurricane charley - update
Anonymous
Unregistered


I hope that this message finds you and Sarah well, and I hope that the electric co. doesn't blame electricty hoarders for the power flux...

Rena

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#30142 - 08/12/04 11:25 PM Last Minute Preparations:
Anonymous
Unregistered


Lemme see...

13 gallons of gasoline for generator. (24.85)
1 case water from Big Lots (6.00)
2 bags cat food (2x4.85 = 9.70 plus tax)
2 pounds pulled pork from Sonny's Bar B Que (Didn't feel like cooking tonight.) - (20.00)
1 Bottle Sonny's Barbecue Sauce (1.95?)

Cleaned up the yard quickly of all projectile-like items. Filled two 5-gallon plastic jerry cans with water from the hose. Filled 5-gallon bucket and other cleaning buckets with water and left them out.

We'll be filling the bathtub in about an hour.

Other than that, we're doing good.

Things I've learned: 1) My generator runs for 2 hours on its gasoline supply.

2) It won't run my 3.5 ton air conditioner...alas.

3) It WILL run my well pump and refrigerator, as well as most of my other appliances.

4) Idiots key up on FRS radios and run their batteries dead and I get to monitor it when I scan the frequencies.

Oh yes...cleaned out the trunk of my car; Found a box of 20 rounds of .223 ammunition I'd forgotten I had.

We're going to shower tonight, dress comfortably and sleep in our clothes.

I'll keep you posted when I can.

Panz

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#30143 - 08/12/04 11:28 PM Hurricane Charley Update - 6pm EDT
Anonymous
Unregistered


And I quote:

Quote:

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
FLOOD WATCH
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
455 PM EDT THU AUG 12 2004

...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A FLOOD WATCH
EFFECTIVE UNTIL 500 PM EDT SATURDAY AFTERNOON. THIS WATCH INCLUDES
THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES...

CHARLOTTE...CITRUS...DE SOTO...HARDEE...HERNANDO...HIGHLANDS...
HILLSBOROUGH...LEE...LEVY...MANATEE...PASCO...PINELLAS...POLK...
SARASOTA AND SUMTER.

SOME CITIES IN THE WATCH INCLUDE...

ARCADIA...BARTOW...BRADENTON...BRANDON...BROOKSVILLE...CAPE CORAL...
CHIEFLAND...CLEARWATER...CLEARWATER BEACH...FORT MYERS...INVERNESS...
LAKELAND...NEW PORT RICHEY...PORT CHARLOTTE...PUNTA GORDA...
SARASOTA...SEBRING...SPRING HILL...TAMPA...VENICE...WINTER HAVEN AND
ZEPHYRHILLS.

...SYNOPSIS...
HURRICANE CHARLEY WILL MOVE INTO THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO LATE
TONIGHT AND THEN MOVE ACROSS WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA ON
FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT. HURRICANE WARNINGS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FROM
BONITA BEACH IN LEE COUNTY TO BAYPORT IN HERNANDO COUNTY. A HURRICANE
WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM BAYPORT TO THE SUWANNEE RIVER IN LEVY
COUNTY.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE EXPECTED WITH HURRICANE CHARLEY.
THIS ADDITIONAL RAINFALL WILL AGGRAVATE ALREADY SATURATED GROUND
CONDITIONS ACROSS MUCH OF WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA.
MODERATE RIVER FLOODING AS WELL AS MODERATE URBAN FLOODING IS
POSSIBLE.

A FLOOD WATCH MEANS FLOODING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24 TO 36
HOURS. RESIDENTS LIVING IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS...AS WELL AS THOSE
LIVING NEAR SMALL STREAMS AND CREEKS...SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT
PROPERTY AND BE PREPARED TO MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO AND OTHER LOCAL MEDIA FOR UPDATES
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.



This sucker is gonna hit us head on.

Fasten your seat belts; It's gonna be a bumpy night.

Panz
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#30144 - 08/13/04 03:20 AM Re: hurricane charley
m9key Offline
Member

Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 143
Loc: florida
alright 23:00 the keys getting squalls we got tropical storm watch just announced for the east coast, hunkering down sit and wait

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#30145 - 08/13/04 03:26 PM Re: Last Minute Preparations:
X-ray Dave Offline
Addict

Registered: 11/11/03
Posts: 572
Loc: Nevada
Thanks, for the info, the BBQ sounds good. (hard to get good BBQ in Ca.) Good luck.

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#30146 - 08/13/04 05:58 PM Re: hurricane charley
m9key Offline
Member

Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 143
Loc: florida
cat 4 as of 13:00 and is making landfall in ft myers instead of tampa ft myers not ready

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