It is a very versatile pack. All the components attach via 1" fastex buckles. Ours use the web gear with a hydration system attached then a larger "24hr. pack" on top of that. I have found that with my limited sewing skills and some extra 1" buckles I can attach almost any thing I want to the gear.

Now they work...Thanks!!!

Willie,<br><br>Nothing perfect <grin>. If you can locate surplus US OG trousers (wool), they work fine and made you look like a VERY experienced Scouter - I think the old time dress trousers looked exactly the same (were the same?). Those look like part of a snazzy class A. New and used are available in all the various sizes, but it may take a little patience. I think the used ones run a bit one the small side from listed size, so you may want to err on the large side when sizing them.<br><br>Althoug BSA calls the new trousers "action fit", I reckon it's for office action - look at the difference between properly fitted modern utility uniforms and these. Because of that, it's hard to get from here to there...<br><br>I am aware that some troops specify surplus uniform trousers (usually BDUs) as Class A - certainly within the equipment tradition of BSA, although very much against the grain from a "Official BSA" point of view. I think I understand why - just wish they would come up with a better trouser at a less costly price. The pants are not all bad - an improvement over the previous ones. But cotton-poly is not treated cotton-nylon (altho it IS "permanent press"), and those so-called cargo pockets are a joke - just patch pockets.<br><br>The cargo pockets on BSA pants ought to be sized at least large enough to comfortably hold a BSA Handbook... which also makes them handy for other things. I can't comfortably get a GEM in these (There's a thought - a GEM version of the Scout Handbook!)<br><br>And the elastic waistband - sheesh! Is that ever uncomfortable! Pull tabs are simpler and more reliable.<br><br>The reinforcement is fine and they are at least not confining in cut, so as I say, not terrible at all - just disappointingly less than they could be.<br><br>I use OD Field Trousers on outings and they sorta look right - from a distance. Right color, "wrong" shape (baggy). Obviously the pre-BDU fatigue trousers (cotton) would look OK, but I do not see any advantage to them over the official pants.<br><br>Maybe someone else can chime in here? I'm not really an expert on this topic.<br><br>Tom

having used both the CFP-90 and the Molle pack I can tell you that while similar in general appearance. That is the only thing the same. The CFP-90 also known as a "vector" pack is a one piece unit not counting the small patrol pack that is included. The Molle pack would be more correctly refered to as the Molle system as it is a Modular system that can be tailored to the needs of the user. It has a main pack a detachable sleeping bag compartment and various magazine pouches as well as radio and multi-purpose utility pouches. It does also include a updated version of the CFP-90's Patrol pack ( 1000% better). The Molle pack also has integrated web gear that remains on the user when the main pack is dropped using a quick release system similar to the older alice pack's. Anyway I tend to run on but that covers the main points if you need any more info I would be glad to help<br><br>Brian

This post is starting to digress from a survival POV so I'll post my complte reply on the Campfire forum under "Scout Dress."<br><br>

Tom, I can get my hands on a large ALICE pack for a good price (free)...what modifications are required to attach it to the Camp Trails frame??? (Once again you have come up with a great idea!!!)

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