#300965 - 04/15/22 06:17 PM
Fire escape mask & hoods
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Journeyman
Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 69
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Given the recent mass shooting on the NYC subway and the gunman’s employment of smoke generating devices, in the subway car and tunnel, I have a new found impetus to replace my expired XCaper Smoke Mask. As I’ve written before, albeit the XCaper site is still “up”, calls and other attempts to contact the company indicate disconnected phones and no other responses to inquiries. Conclusion= They are defunct.
I’m again researching a small , light, reasonably priced alternative, fire escape mask or hood, that I can fit in my EDC bag, replacing the expired XCaper mask and swim googles, I have heretofore relied upon.
. One prerequisite is that the unit absorb CO for its effective life of 30-60 minutes, otherwise it’s just a glorified N95 or N100 unit. A plus, but not a requirement, would be effectiveness against radioactive particles ( IEO a “dirty bomb”) and protection against basic war gases and ricin .
My research is down to the IEvac mask/ hood ~$200 and the Going Gear Fire Escape Mask/Hood ~$39.95. You may be familiar with the IEvac hood from the events of Jan.6,2022 at the Capitol in Washington D.C. That was the unit being worn by the Congress Members and Staff. It fits all the protection prerequisites and optional preferences. But it is heavy, relatively large in storage and expensive.
The Going Gear Mask / hood fits the fire smoke and CO absorption requirement. I’ve inquired via text as to chemical, biological, radioactive particles. No response as yet. It’s also much, less expensive, lighter and smaller in storage than the IEvac unit. But, I can’t find any independent testing or NIOSH rating, or government endorsement equivalent to Congress and the Secret Service purchases of theIEvac unit.
Do any of you have any further knowledge, experience or comments regarding these units or suggestions for alternative products?
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#300972 - 04/19/22 03:53 PM
Re: Fire escape mask & hoods
[Re: Acropolis50]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 04/23/08
Posts: 240
Loc: Iowa
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There is an option I ran across when working in corrections - https://readimask.com/readimask-store/large-yellow-adult-with-shield/While it seems to be marketed toward the health profession, there was a black version that we got some of. They worked for pepper spray which was the goal back then. They are one use and done. I like the face shield for eye protection.
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#300976 - 04/21/22 04:53 AM
Re: Fire escape mask & hoods
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Journeyman
Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 69
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First, thanx to all of you for taking the time to give me a studied and serious reaction to my question. I had already checked out the adhesive mask and eliminated it for 2 reasons, first I wear a close cropped , but full beard= sealing problem. Second, reading the spec.s and the text, it says they are applying for an N-95 rating. As Alan says I could just use a good N-95 mask and I could add the swim googles I used to use with the XCaper mask. And that’s what I may end up doing as an interim (non-/partial) “solution. The Parat 7500 mask is already more expensive that the IEvac hood and without the same certifications or accceptances by viable Gov’t. Agencies.
That leaves us with , what was correctly commented upon as the “ generic Chinese “mask/hood, marketed by different outfits at widely varying prices. As Doug and others, correctly observe, it’s about the Certifications.
I note the alibabba advert. contains three certifications. On looks like a Common Market Cert., the other an EU Cert. and the third a Republic of Ireland Cert. It it is all , frankly “Greek to me”?? “ Tough to trust” as already noted. Do thes noted Certs mean anything to any of you? Please take a moment and let me know. Again. Thanx to all.
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#300977 - 04/21/22 03:43 PM
Re: Fire escape mask & hoods
[Re: Acropolis50]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 1821
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I note the alibabba advert. contains three certifications. On looks like a Common Market Cert., the other an EU Cert. and the third a Republic of Ireland Cert. It it is all , frankly “Greek to me”?? “ Tough to trust” as already noted. Do thes noted Certs mean anything to any of you? Please take a moment and let me know. Again. Thanx to all. I'm unable to read the certification images they placed. So a generic summary: for Europe: EN403 is a 'Respiratory protective devices for self-rescue' standard; however they also come with a release/update year behind the standard. Since that isn't written; this is the first red flag. For PPE; a 'notified body' is required to do testing to make sure items are according to standard. Notified body are testing labs; they are assigned 4 numbers and printed after the CE logo. The 4 numbers can be found on the EU website and guide you to the website. Most have a search option to see if the certification is current. I have played with the Chinese ones and they have very high breathing resistance. No experience with use in smoke. Personnally focussing on other things would be my priority. (fire standards, smoke detectors, escape routes).
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