Equipment doesn't do anything. It's a combination of the user and the equipment that can do something.

If this kit is targeted at experienced people; well most can make a better kit suited for them selfs for less.

if this kit is targeted at inexperienced people; well it needs some simplification or instruction. For example; You can't give a Ferro rod to a random person and expect that they know what it is, how to use it, the skill to use it, and knowing what you can light and how/where to collect proper tinder from. (tinder not provided in this kit). Even the matchless requires some skill and knowledge.

That is not correct. It depends on context. The functions of a kit always have to be judged on the requirements of a potential user. The user may be fictional. Without requirements and user profiles a valid comparison of kits is hardly feasible.
If you define requirements that only the SEVENTY2 can fulfill, this kit is the optimum. If you define a target audience the outcome may be different.

If your proposed kit can do everything the SEVENTY2 can do then show me. It's because of your refusal that I'm having to repeat myself.

I don't understand this behavior of insisting on a claim and yet refuse to show me. If I were as confident about a claim as you seem to be, I would be eager to back it up. The fact that you refuse to do so makes me very suspicious.

Jeanette Isabelle

In other words, the functions.

Jeanette Isabelle

Provide information about user skills and the functions you think that kit has.

Untill now you only mentioned:
- 'grey man'
- that organizer thing.

Grey man is pretty much crap tacticool LARPers seems to keep on going about.

Although an organizer is handy for specific items; like a first aid kit unfamiliar to the user. Having everything in that organizer is in practice unusable.

When making a blanket statement, which is what Hikermor has been doing all along, a kit needs to be judged on its functions.

I seem to recall a person from this forum judging kits based on the functions and not the requirements of a potential user.

http://www.equipped.org/prsnlkit.htm
http://www.equipped.org/1personkits.htm

Jeanette Isabelle

I don't agree with you here -- every kit, piece of gear, training class, and so on should be judged by the requirements of the person considering it.

For example, it might make sense for someone on this thread (not necessarily you, Jeanette_Isabelle) to take a "basics of cybersecurity" class to educate that person on avoiding account takeovers, scams, malware infections and so on. But for me to take such a class is less valuable, as I usually teach them.

Similarly, our medical professionals probably would not get a lot of benefit out of an 8-hour refresher on treating gunshot wounds for firearms instructors. I try to take such a class every year, and I've learned something from each one.

A kit that I built makes sense for me -- it's designed around my skillset and the problems I think I might face. I think most of us here, if we're buying a pre-built kit, it's with an eye to supplement or improve upon it for our purposes.

You are asking me to prove something but not ask the same of hikermor no matter how many times he has demonstrated his defiance? I'll be the one to set the example.

The skill varies from user to user.


I already listed many functions but I will list them again but more organized. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the "grey man," it remains one of the SEVENTY2's functions.


Again, regardless of what you may think about a specific function, it nevertheless remains as a function. Onto the list.

• It was designed to be able to blend into an urban while at the same time incorporate reflective material for nighttime safety.
• The shell can be used as a flotation device or a waterproof storage container though both of these functions cannot be used at the same time.
• Though not rocket science, the shell has a whistle integrated into the shell thereby minimizing space and weight.
  The shell has a mounting point for the flashlight for hands-free use.
• The organizer divides the contents into the eight respective categories, includes labeling for not only the group but for the individual components. The organizer includes color-coding respective to the category such as blue for water and red for first aid. The organizer also uses icons as part of its labeling system to help the user if they are disadvantaged in any way.
• Survival instructions are printed on the side of the organizer.
• The organizer can double as a backpack if the shell is needed for something else.
• The backing incorporates holes so they can be used as improvised as a pair of snowshoes or two splints. The backing can also be used as a snow shovel.
• The kit uses multi-purpose items when possible. The cleaning syringe for the water purifier can double as an irrigation syringe. The pack of antibacterial wipes can double as toilet paper.
• Though later discontinued, the kit did have improvised tender.

It is because of most of these functions that I have serious doubts that Hikermor can do what he claimed that he could do. I do not believe it is possible unless he uses the shell and organizer or builds his own.

Redacted for tone.

Redacted by Jeanette for using a double negative.

Jeanette Isabelle

If we can't judge a kit or even a tool, such as a Swiss Army Knife or a Leatherman, by its functions then any claim or review is strictly meaningless.

Jeanette Isabelle

You are right. All reviews are just one persons opinion/experience. Not the ultimate truth.