The Magnet family is going through this right now and while there’s no survival situation it continues to be colossally not fun.

Outside of blood relations I’ve spent the last ten years going on what I call a toxic a*****e purge diet, and there isn’t a person I’ve stopped talking to that I miss. The blood relations are a different story.

Blood-related narcissists are a nightmare.
Surviving them is a skill that all of us should learn.
Yep. If you have a narcissist in your life, every minute is SHTF.

Just imagine being in a survival situation, with a blindly self-centered narcissist who doesn't care about the group, and cannot comprehend the dangers and problems around that need everyone's cooperation, dedication, and ahem... selflessness. I don't want to even imagine how it will be like.

I must be lucky - I don't know any narcissists, not that I can readily identify anyway. I can't think of a single family member or friend that I would not want to have with me in a survival situation. I have one or two that might need a little extra training because they're a bit on the "less knowledgeable" side regarding some things, but they're not that way because of narcissism or other negative personality traits. I don't mind training someone how to sharpen a knife if they've never done it before. Or how to safely handle a firearm. Some may have never started a fire without the help of charcoal lighter fluid or a tank of propane. But those experience deficiencies could be easily remedied, and they would be valuable members of the team.

Indeed you are lucky. A narcissist is not a person who only lacks the knowledge of starting a fire, but a person who wants EVERYTHING to be done their way. They do not take NO for an answer. They will not allow you to focus on survival, because they want everyone to focus on them.

Their existence in a group, IMO, is worse that SHTF.

Sorry guys
I may have derailed the thread. Apologies.

I just feel this subject hasn't been covered enough in many forums; from prepper forums to family forums. Narcissists have destroyed families and relations, yet the subject seems to be invisible to alot of people.

Difficult to believe it could happen I know, but imagine if a narcissist became president.
Qjs

That would be bad if it were to ever happen.

Jeanette Isabelle

Even weirder, imagine if a narcissist wasn't president! There's an old saying that anyone crazy enough to want to be president isn't fit for the job.

There was one American president who didn't seek the job, or want it and reacted when he was told the state governors had unanimously chosen him to be president, as he would a death sentence (there was a good chance it was one):
Jeff Davis.

Wikipedia on Narcissistic Personality Disorder:
'People with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) are characterized by the personality traits of persistent grandiosity, an excessive need for admiration, and a personal disdain and lack of empathy for other people.[7][8] As such, the person with NPD usually displays arrogance and a distorted sense of personal superiority, and seeks to establish abusive power and control over others.... people with NPD typically value themselves over others, to the extent of openly disregarding the wishes and feelings of anyone else, and expect to be treated as superior, regardless of their actual status or achievements.[7][10] Socially, the person with narcissistic personality disorder usually exhibits a fragile ego (self-concept), intolerance of criticism, and a tendency to belittle other people, in order to validate their own superiority.'

We can all be thankful no one like that has ever been president.
qjs