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#29618 - 07/30/04 05:22 PM "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
norad45 Offline
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Can someone tell me the difference (if any) between the Swedish Firesteel and the Metal Match that Countycomm offers? The match can be seen at: http://www.countycomm.com/FIRESTARTER.htm

They look the same to me but maybe one works better?

Thanks, Vince

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#29619 - 07/30/04 05:59 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
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They're different. The swedish mil firesteel dwarfs the CountyComm one, both in girth and length. I can't really comment on how "hot" the CountyComm one is other than to say that the swedish one *seems* hotter to me. I'm not sure how much of that is the chemical makeup of the ferrocium or the added length.

If size is of concern, then by all means check out the CountyComm one, if not, go Swedish.

*BTW one nice feature of the CountyComm one is that the rod is coated in some sort of resinous plastic so that it will store longer without corroding. A plus if you just want to throw it in a kit and foget about it.

Here's a pic I took for ya


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#29620 - 07/31/04 11:44 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
norad45 Offline
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Thanks for the reply; that's exactly the info I need. I bought the Countycomm one. It will be for EDC so its smaller size will be a plus, as well as the coating. Thanks again.

Regards, Vince

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#29621 - 07/31/04 06:14 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
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Vince, glad it helped. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#29622 - 08/01/04 12:54 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
boatman Offline
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Tanx for the side by side picture.I was curious about that myself.Now I have a size comparisson on the Swedish Fire Steel.
BOATMAN
John

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#29623 - 08/19/04 09:05 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Hutch4545 Offline
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Hey Gator (and all),

Where did you get your Swedish Firesteel?

How do you like it?


(...and thanks for the comparison photo <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> )

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#29624 - 08/19/04 05:33 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
dogplasma Offline
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Registered: 01/27/04
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Loc: Michigan
If you're going to EDC a sparker and size is a consideration, you may want to look at a Boy Scout hot-spark. You should be able to get them where they sell other BSA stuff (Surplus shops and hardware stores in my case). I haven't used it side-by-side with a Swede or a Metal Match (I have both) but I have successfully used it on a number of occasions. It's smaller than a house key - should be about four bucks.

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#29625 - 08/19/04 07:22 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Paul810 Offline
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That's what I have on my key chain. For the price and size they are great. I bought about 10 of them and stuck them on my keychains, in my kits, everywhere. I actually used the one on my keychain to teach firestarting to boy scouts at summmer camp this year. We got 6 nights worth of fires started with it and a little cotten/vasiline, even when it was wet out, with no problem.

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#29626 - 08/20/04 08:53 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Hutch4545 Offline
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Thanks for the info on the Hot Spark. I found a good source, www.scoutstuff.org - very inexpensive too. <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Can you tell me more about the Swedish Firesteel - where I can get one and any experiences you guys have had with them.

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#29627 - 08/20/04 04:54 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
dogplasma Offline
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The default source for the Army firesteels used to this Bagheera fellow on bladeforums and knifeforums, but he can no longer provide them due to some new contract his provider entered into. It's a shame too because he used those sales to fund his scout troop.

If you're in Europe, just google for 'army fire steel' or 'swedish fire steel' and you'll find a bunch of online retailers. If you're in the US, you can get the Army (big one) from http://www.survivalsheath.com and from Emerson Knives. If you want the scout model, they're re-branded by Kershaw and they're all over eBay.

I haven't yet used my Army in the field. I don't really think the fact that it's bigger will guarantee a greater degree of success - I think it just lasts longer - which is relative anyway considering that even a small sparker should lasy years.

Truth be told, I prefer the Doan magnesium one over all the others. The sparker rod is of high quality and seems pretty hot. Though I don't usually use the magnesium part it's nice to have if your tinder is less than prime. Most importantly, I find the rod-only devices too hard to hold firmly by just the thumb-piece.

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#29628 - 08/21/04 01:09 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Hutch4545 Offline
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Thanks for the info.

Give this a try. It works for me <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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#29629 - 08/21/04 02:50 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Paul810 Offline
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The only problem with that is the knife blade. Using a blade on a flint rod dulls the blade and helps to corrode it. Use an awl, screwdriver, or the best a short piece of hacksaw blade that has been sharpened slightly on the back. <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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#29630 - 08/21/04 03:22 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
paulr Offline
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Do you guys really like these rod things better than the Sparklite spark wheel thingie in the ETS PSK? Countycomm is selling Sparklite kits for something like $7 including tinder tabs.

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#29631 - 08/21/04 03:49 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Paul810 Offline
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The Spark Lite is great because it can be used one handed and as long as you are useing tinder you brought it is probibly one of the best fire starters. The ferrocium rods on the other hand are great for these reasons:
1. It works fine after its been submerged in water, even with minimum drying.
2. Larger ones can be broken with a rock into two pieces in case you need to give one to a partner.
3. They throw more sparks which makes it easier for damp or not the best natural tinders to start.
4. They last a long long time.

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#29632 - 08/21/04 06:08 AM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Hutch4545 Offline
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The guy in the illustration is clearly using his "SSSF" pocket knife..."Super Special Secret Forces" pocket knife. You see, alot of people don't even know that these pocket knives exist - because they're a secret. The blades are specifically designed to be so robust that they can withstand the riggors of a ferrocium rod... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



...or maybe it's a backup mora... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#29633 - 08/21/04 04:55 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Hutch4545:

You have got to quit letting that grape juice ferment before you drink it.

Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#29634 - 08/21/04 05:13 PM Re: "Metal Match" vs. Swedish Fire Steel?
Hutch4545 Offline
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...hiccup... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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