#295954 - 05/04/20 03:44 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Wow. What they lacked in gear they made up for in over-confidence and willingness to call others for rescue (once they had a cell signal). If that cell battery had been fully dead they’d be Darwin award contenders.
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#295958 - 05/04/20 04:52 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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More info in the OVERBOARD VEST thread.
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#295959 - 05/04/20 06:37 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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The last post in the Overboard Vest thread is from July ‘19.
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#295961 - 05/04/20 07:48 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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Amazing lack of forethought and preparedness! Even here in sunny Southern California, whenever I get in a kayak, my PFD is worn, equipped with a knife (for dealing with kelp) and a strobe light at a minimum. Usually there is a signal mirror along as well.
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#295963 - 05/04/20 07:51 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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Wow! What can you even say? I understand that most of the time people aren't charged for being rescued but sometimes maybe they should be!
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#295968 - 05/04/20 09:36 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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#295969 - 05/04/20 10:34 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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Also, a 10' kayak is not a sea kayak.
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#295970 - 05/04/20 10:44 PM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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Also, a 10' kayak is not a sea kayak. Yep, sea kayaks are about 17 feet, mostly.
Edited by Herman30 (05/04/20 10:44 PM)
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#295975 - 05/05/20 04:17 AM
Re: Alaska Kayakers Rescued With No Life Jackets, No E
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Very lucky they had signal!
In our waterways this time of year calls are common since there are sheer dropoffs and no entry / exit for miles at a stretch, sometimes rapids, swiftwater and blockages not obvious from the entry point, depending on how the weather's been. People hop in on tubes and swimwear and that's it, sometimes a cell phone and some beer.
They'll start out late afternoon on a route that takes 6 hours, end up calling after pitch dark because they can't see and it's gotten cold.
The most commonly used item when we arrive on scene is a space blanket. The most common comment I get was "we thought the river looped back around to the starting point"
It's important to have a good idea of their location, because there may be an entry point close to the cell phone ping but we don't want to inadvertently enter downstream of them. However, we don't want to put in so far upriver that it takes an extended amount of time to get to them either if we can put in closer, especially if there's a medical issue.
Fortunately, most parts in my AO have full cell coverage, and a common technique we use is to have them pull up their location on google maps, zoom out a little bit and take a screenshot to send to the incident commander's phone and we can go from there.
I have been introducing drones, but we run into legal VLOS issues because Tennessee has some tree canyons...
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