#299767 - 08/18/21 04:23 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
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I've heard of it before, though "the internet" says its a speed advantage, I always heard it as a workaround to laws limiting round count in a magazine. How many rounds are legal in NY? seven rounds New York limits any person to putting seven rounds of ammunition into a magazine, unless the person is at an incorporated firing range or competition recognized by the National Rifle Association or International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association, in which case the limit is ten rounds.Apr 2, 2021
You can't carry an 8 round revolver or a magazine fed pistol that can hold 8 or more rounds in the magazine. So you carry two 6 round revolvers and the second one is your "new york reload"
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#299769 - 08/18/21 05:20 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Geezer in Chief
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Registered: 08/26/06
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Interesting! Thanks for the info. As a revolver guy, I am quite happy with a stocked speed loader s my "California reload." i doubt there is much difference, speedwise....
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#299770 - 08/18/21 06:14 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Journeyman
Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 69
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OK, I lost my bet, at least in part. But, the term “New York Reload” long predates any laws concerning limits on firearms magazine capacity. The first time I remember hearing the term was in the 1950s and I think the term goes back even further.
In the 60s, I learned that NYPD officers were among the ( then) few police who routinely carried a second handgun, usually a 5-6 shot S&W or Colt snubbie revolver, in an offhand ankle or pocket holster. The first time I saw it in print was in a book or article by or about Jim Cirillo’s famed “Stakeout Squad”. Still later , after the famed “Onion Field “ incident, in L.A. I think, some officers also started carrying a ultra small Browning .25 automatic or similar weapon, in a closed flap handcuff case, worn at the center rear of the duty belt, along with a cuff key, taped inside the back of the duty belt.
One of the NYPD Detectives which whom I attended law school, told me that when he was in uniform, stationed on a subway platform beat in the Bronx, he carried three guns. His S&W Model 10 , 4” in barrel, issued 6 shot revolver; a S& W air weight revolver, 5 shot, in an ankle holster and a ( completely Department Unapproved) .25 auto in the described handcuff case and the cuff key, as described. This was in the bad old days of NYC crime rates, in the late 1960s - 1970s.
Today, one of my young cousins is a NYPD Officer. He is only on the job a few years and he drew a subway platform assignment in Brooklyn, at least until he recently got promoted to a good plain clothes assignment. He said he and most of his colleagues, carry their approved Glock 19s in their belt holsters and a Glock 26 for offhand use, in an ankle holster. The G26 is also his approved off-duty carry weapon. He says the Department won’t approve revolvers for any new officers , for off duty use.
Edited by Acropolis50 (08/18/21 07:08 PM)
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#299771 - 08/18/21 10:25 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Addict
Registered: 12/06/01
Posts: 601
Loc: Orlando, FL
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Hadn't heard using two guns called a New York reload before. Of course if you are from Texas,this is how it's done. Six shot reload and six more in 2.99 seconds. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM
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#299792 - 08/22/21 02:00 AM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
[Re: Acropolis50]
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Newbie
Registered: 08/29/06
Posts: 41
Loc: the last bastion of PHRASECENS...
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Blast: I’ll bet that you and I are the only two people on this forum, who know, without looking it up,( don’t cheat guys) what a “ New York Reload” is.” I was raised in and around. Where do you come by the knowledge? No, I knew it for decades. Law enforcement is where I picked it up.
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#299801 - 08/22/21 06:59 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Journeyman
Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 69
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Nursertim: Look at my last post. I’ve already conceded that I was wrong, at least in part. Good fun for a brain teaser, in any event.
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#299832 - 08/28/21 09:27 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Stranger
Registered: 08/06/06
Posts: 11
Loc: Grand Forks, ND, USA
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Ive heard of the “New York reload” all the way back in the ‘70s as a kid. I wouldnt mind an ankle carry holster for my Micro9 and Ive been looking for an SP101 for a similar use.
As to the original question and extra gear, yes, since Covid-chaos struck, I tend to carry more “firepower.”
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#300021 - 09/13/21 05:56 PM
Re: Carrying more gear nowadays?
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Enthusiast
Registered: 07/06/02
Posts: 228
Loc: US
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No. Why would I? Other than a mask, gloves, and some hand sanitiser, why would I need more gear than usual, these days? I barely even leave the house. I rarely go to my office, and pretty much only go out to go food shopping, and once a month to deposit my paycheck and drop off my rent check.
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