#294730 - 01/28/20 03:53 PM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
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That's true. Up there, satellite phones are probably the only realistic option. I'm not sure about VHF or HAM coverage.
I liked the second story as well. The old-timers know what they need when a vehicle conks out, so instead of an impending tragedy it's mostly a nuisance.
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#294731 - 01/28/20 05:54 PM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
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The old-timers know what they need when a vehicle conks out, so instead of an impending tragedy it's mostly a nuisance. They had everything they needed in their truck — cut wood, kindling and firestarter, and a chainsaw kept warm inside the vehicle. Bolded part is most important, have dry wood that is easy to light and then get more fresh wood from forrest. Chainsaw is not a must, a handsaw works too and keeps the user warm while sawing.
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#294735 - 01/28/20 07:40 PM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
[Re: Herman30]
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[quote=dougwalkabout] Bolded part is most important, have dry wood that is easy to light and then get more fresh wood from forrest. Chainsaw is not a must, a handsaw works too and keeps the user warm while sawing. Yep, cutting wood by hand warms you twice; once when you work to saw it, and again when you burn it.
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#294739 - 01/29/20 12:51 AM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
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[quote=dougwalkabout] Bolded part is most important, have dry wood that is easy to light and then get more fresh wood from forrest. Chainsaw is not a must, a handsaw works too and keeps the user warm while sawing. Yep, cutting wood by hand warms you twice; once when you work to saw it, and again when you burn it. Maybe, but you need a lot of wood and you need it in a hurry. That kind of volume means taking larger trees. These folks don't mess around; they know better. Plenty of exercise splitting it. And remember Les Stroud's advice for extreme cold: "You sweat, you die."
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#294740 - 01/29/20 01:10 AM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
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Or a Siberian log fire and avoid splitting. Unless short on tinder and kindling to get the thing going.
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#294742 - 01/29/20 09:49 AM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
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Maybe, but you need a lot of wood and you need it in a hurry.
Perhaps you missed that the old lady had wood in her car to make a fire with. You don´t need a whole lot for a fire to burn an hour or two. So there is plenty of time to get more from the woods. And no splitting is needed when you allready have a proper fire going.
Edited by Herman30 (01/29/20 09:50 AM)
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#294743 - 01/29/20 03:05 PM
Re: Burned a vehicle to stay warm
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I have always been able to collect enough wood for a cheery blaze bare handed, even in snow. Long ago, I started carrying alternate fuels in wintry conditions. i suspect they would have done better to pile snow up around the vehicle, making an igloo of sorts.
I understand that then theinterior temp would stabilize at close to 32F.
Saws and hatchets, axes, etc. can be useful, indeed the best, for some tasks, but hardly a necessity for survival.
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