#293866 - 10/16/19 05:12 PM
NYC Knife laws and risks for non-US citizens
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Journeyman
Registered: 07/18/17
Posts: 66
Loc: Italy
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I'm planning to visit New York City next winter and I read about the draconian knife laws applied there.
I'm aware that the main issue is about the opening system, and that any knife which can be even remotely deployed with the infamous "wrist's flick" is a big no no and can get you arrested.
But I have an additional issue, I'm Italian and I'll be visiting the US under the "Visa Waiver Program" that the American government kindly extends to citizens of "friendly" countries.
I read in a couple of sources online that non-US citizens need to be extra careful in NYC and should avoid carrying any blade whatsoever on their person.
So, in your opinion, I'll be safe in carrying only a really small SAK (my trusty EDC, the Walker, 84 mm in length while closed, non locking blade 50mm long) or should I leave it at home? I'd hate to have to cancel my return flight or facing exorbitant legal expenses just for being caught with a tiny pocket knife.
Another issue is the possible presence of airport style security checks at major tourist attractions in the city. Will I have to surrender my small knife every time I enter places like the MOMA, the Empire States Building or the Statue of Liberty?
Thank you very much to everyone able to be of assistance.
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#293874 - 10/17/19 06:40 AM
Re: NYC Knife laws and risks for non-US citizens
[Re: albusgrammaticus]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 3164
Loc: Big Sky Country
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Haertig may be right- discretion might be the better part of valor. No point in poking the bear. Still, Doug has spent many years dealing with the issues and knows NY rules better than I!
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#293889 - 10/19/19 01:02 PM
Re: NYC Knife laws and risks for non-US citizens
[Re: Phaedrus]
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Journeyman
Registered: 07/18/17
Posts: 66
Loc: Italy
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Thank you very much to all those who chimed in.
On one hand, I'm relived by Chaosmagnet's and Mr Ritter's (a true authority on the subject!) assurances that I won't have problems on the streets with a simple penknife in my pocket.
On the other hand, I think it would be a real nuisance to plan beforehand whether or not I should carry the knife with me according to the presence of absence of security checks in the places I plan to visit for the rest of the day.
In this respect, I'm inclined to follow the advice of Haertig and Phaedrus and just be on the safe side.
Unfortunately, we live in a society (and I count my home country in the fold as well) where laws and regulations can have so many different interpretations and applications, every one of which can result in very different outcomes to those caught on the wrong side of the authorities.
It's very sad, but on certain occasions you may be inclined the refrain to do something, even if it is totally in your right to do so, just to avoid the stress and potential harassment that may ensue...
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#293951 - 10/26/19 11:31 PM
Re: NYC Knife laws and risks for non-US citizens
[Re: albusgrammaticus]
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Addict
Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
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We visited NYC last year. First time back in 22 years. I'm former MOS (NYC EMS) and even with my shield around my neck I was wishing I left the knife home. I'm sure I could have 'escaped' any 'problems with the shield and credentials I carry but I just felt it was a bit of an inconvenience. A lot of places will not let you in and they don't 'store things' while you go inside. Started thinking about improvising.
We were doing the 'tourist' thing though as our youngest had never been there. So we were looking to go into the touristy type places. Just walking around....no problem in the pocket.
Next time I go I'll bring a cheap 1 dollar keychain knife so if it 'gets taken' I don't care and I'll buy another a few stores down. Just my 2c.
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