#29256 - 07/19/04 01:20 PM
Re: books about knots
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/29/04
Posts: 84
Loc: North Carolina
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I haven't seen that book, but, as you probably know, a web search will turn up many sites with cool info on knots. BTW was there a change in the knots described in Doug's PSP instructions? I just looked at the PDF instructions at http://www.equipped.org/psp/psp_survival_instructions_0204.pdf and they aren't the ones I thought I remembered <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />. Anyway, somewhere on this site I thought I learned two useful knots: a sheet bend "with an extra loop", and a "more secure" form of bowline. Does anyone know where to find diagrams for these? Thanks, Steve
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#29257 - 07/19/04 04:21 PM
Re: books about knots
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Enthusiast
Registered: 12/09/02
Posts: 204
Loc: Long Island, New York
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Steve, Give this a shot: Outdoor Knots There are several knots on this page, including the sheet bend and bowline.
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#29258 - 07/19/04 07:30 PM
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Old Hand
Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 924
Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
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Sounds like they might be the same variation on two essentially similar knots. (A bowline is simply a sheet bend that's tied in a different fashion and for a different purpose - instead of tying two pieces of rope together, it ties one piece of rope to itself.) To tie a "non-inverting bowline" (this is the terminology that Mors Kochanski uses), tie a regular bowline but the 'rabbit' goes around the 'tree' twice before going back down the 'hole'. Apparently, under certain conditions, a bowline can "invert" and turn into a slip knot; by taking a second turn around the standing end, this is prevented. If you can figure out how to do that, then you should be able to tie a sheet bend the same way. But I don't believe these are the knots you're talking about; I suspect you're talking about the double bowline: http://www.chockstone.org/TechTips/Bowline.htmand the double sheet bend: http://www.troop7.org/Knots/SheetDouble.html
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#29259 - 07/20/04 01:59 AM
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Addict
Registered: 05/04/02
Posts: 493
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The most comprehensive book on knots is Ashleys Book of Knots. (not positive of spelling). Over a thousand knots and a very good description of each. I had a copy for years and enjoyed just wandering through it reading the very good stories about knots. I highly recommend it to anyone who has a more than casual interest in Knots.
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#29261 - 07/20/04 03:00 PM
Re: books about knots
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Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 424
Loc: Michigan
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I too agree on Ashley's Book of Knots.It is more of a tome,with 7000 illistrations for 3500 knots.If a knot or bend isn't in there,you dont need it.Ashley's was first published in the early twentieth century so some verbage may be unusual. BOATMAN John
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#29262 - 07/20/04 05:52 PM
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We can be such ... guys ... at times. "What are you doing, dear?" "Just looking through this book of knots, honey." *wife goes away shaking head in bewilderment and disgust*
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#29264 - 07/21/04 03:34 PM
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Old Hand
Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Thanks Nomad. It seems the author took eleven years to write the book. It must be great. This book seems to make unanimity and looks like a classic. I'll try to find it in a library.
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