What is worst than that is, I have a book of knots in the bathroom and some short lengths of cordage to practice knot tying while on the throne <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />. My daughters and wife make fun of me all the time for stuff like that, but I would not want it any other way. Pete <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />