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#28867 - 07/05/04 10:33 PM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
stargazer Enthusiast Registered: 03/05/02 Posts: 224 Loc: Idaho, USA	Bountyhunter Nah; the heart attack and the wound closure were two different people. I wasn't either one of them. As far as I know I am in somewhat good shape. Need to loose a few pounds though and other than that I am ok so far. That's what the doctor said anyway. <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Heart Attack was a pt. I took to the ED via the ambulance service I work for. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Sutured wound was on a young lady in the room next door. I think she was the victim of a domestic fight <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> The doctor asked me to come in and tell him about the patient I had brought in. Thanks for the concern and I enjoyed the comment about "bleeding the wound!" Stargazer
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#28868 - 07/06/04 03:01 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
JohnN Old Hand Registered: 10/10/01 Posts: 966 Loc: Seattle, WA	Quote: I recently reported that Betadine straight from the bottle into a wound was considered caustic to tissue and should therefore be diluted. Well, today (July 5, 2004 at 0100 MST) I spoke with the Doc at the ER and learned the "old school" of thought were along those lines. [...] Now a wound is irrigated (depending on the need and amount of debris) and just prior to closure about 10cc of Betadine is literally dumped in and after about 2 minutes it is rinsed out and the wound closed. CAUTION: Be sure your patient is not allergic to iodine, or shellfish, as this may cause problems. I learned two things today… One: I was still under the “old school of thought” and should therefore consider full strength Betadine in wound irrigation. [...] Hope this clears the air yet again and the Doc did refer me to the website as you have. HMMMMMMM I apologize to you (and all) if I caused any confusion and gave incorrect information. Not at all. Thanks for your comments and I'm glad we were able to get to the bottom of the conflicting information. I certainly can see how the iodine allergies can complicate matters. -john
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#28869 - 07/06/04 06:43 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
NY RAT Enthusiast Registered: 09/19/03 Posts: 256 Loc: brooklyn, ny	ok i admit it you got me. i was thinking what the...he must either be really tough or stupid or both. nice trick about 3 months too late hehe. _________________________ been gone so long im glad to be back
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#28870 - 07/06/04 04:41 PM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
bountyhunter Registered: 11/14/03 Posts: 1224 Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA	NY RAT: I lost tough a long time ago, but am desperately holding on to stupid in some catagories so as to not go mad. Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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#28871 - 07/07/04 02:13 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
Trusbx addict Registered: 01/16/02 Posts: 397 Loc: Ed's Country	Ewww! Urine should never be used for drinking, cleaning wounds or any other medical purposes! It has no antiseptic, curative or magical properties. While you may be able to flush out debris from the wound and while urine in the bladder is sterile, it picks up the bacteria on the way out to contaminate the wound. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> However, if your car radiator ran out of coolant....... _________________________ Trusbx
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#28872 - 07/07/04 06:05 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
Tjin Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/08/02 Posts: 1821	another uses of pee... :http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/bodily-functions/pissing/practical-uses/ _________________________
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#28873 - 07/07/04 07:48 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
NY RAT Enthusiast Registered: 09/19/03 Posts: 256 Loc: brooklyn, ny	well as long as you got smarts and wisdom im listening. _________________________ been gone so long im glad to be back
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#28874 - 07/07/04 07:53 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
NY RAT Enthusiast Registered: 09/19/03 Posts: 256 Loc: brooklyn, ny	Medicinal Urine has been used in various ways as a healing substance, both when taken internally (see Drinking Pee) and when applied externally. Native Eskimo people are but one of many cultures to use fresh urine as an antiseptic, and certain tribes of central Africa who mix it with mud to form a paste which relieves insect bites. i dunno ive never tried it, it just doesnt sound right to me. _________________________ been gone so long im glad to be back
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#28875 - 07/07/04 11:09 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
dave750gixer journeyman Registered: 03/17/04 Posts: 60 Loc: UK	AFAIK mid flow urine is an antiseptic. However, only if you do not have a UTI. If you have a UTI it will contaminate the wound. You would have to be in really desperate straits to use this though IMHO.
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#28876 - 07/07/04 11:37 AM Re: First Aid Kit: Which Betadine?
Anonymous Unregistered	Betadine gel (ointment) is also available - ideal for small to medium sized wounds.
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