You have no idea how much I wanted to smash that dog's skull in...but at the same time, I was thinking that it would be ME seen as the bad guy for harming a "poor, misunderstood dog" on SCHOOL GROUNDS.

If it had been on my property - or just about anywhere else - that dog would have been dead on the spot.

Schools are funny places here, with complex and mysterious laws that can make a seemingly obvious course of action - eliminate a clear and present danger to a child - an entry point to a long, horrible legal battle.

The basic human right of self-defense is abdicated by all on the grounds of a public school, with the predicatable results of the strong preying on the weak, something that is a matter of discussion perhaps in another forum. The legal risks to myself left me with no other choice but to let the dog live.

I'll finish with a positive note - the pepper spray was very effective, the dog was disoriented and unable to attack properly, and I was able to prevent harm to my child. In the end, I committed a small crime (pepper spray is illegal on school grounds) in this act.

OC based animal repellents are legal to purchase and possess. If you're ever stopped, the correct answer to the question, "Why do you carry this item?" is, "There is a large dog on my way home that has jumped the fence/isn't chained up/want's to make my body parts a snack." Of course, then I'd have to ask why you're getting asked that question in the first place.

If you say something like, "This area has some dangerous 2-legged predators", you may get a dangerous weapons charge.

OC and Canada...legal for 4 legged critters. Now...if you're ever attacked by a 2 legged one, you *are* permitted to use any weapon of opportunity if you feel your life is threatened, or if an attack could cause you or another grievous bodily harm.

Just note that I've read reports of 2 legged ones shrugging off OC hits because they have a tolerance to it from eating insanely spicy food.

How insanely hot does the food have to be?

I can eat those little 1/2" peppers that burn going in and coming out as if they were teary eye causing popcorn. I also like to add a little black pepper on the hot cheyenne pepper which is sprinkled on the hot sauce covering the jalpeno pepper.

When I get a pretty woman scratching the door for me, it's usually to get out of the room we are in.

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I *could* tell you precisely which culture I have found OC to be less effective on, but:

{{This particular subject, and how it *could* be construed}}

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(((me)))

But...think about kinds of foods that invoke tears at the mere whiff of them...or watch "A Cook's Tour" on the food channel and see what makes Tony's eyes water....

i know this is late, but i've had some dealings with OC on numerous occasions.

OC has 3 seperate intended effects.
1. severe skin irritation
2. inflammation of mucus membranes
3. respiritory distress

You cannot build up a tolerance for OC. Thats like saying that given enough time, your skin will be impervious to fire. Also, as far a respiratory and the immflamation of the mucus membranes, thats the bodies natural way of removing the irritation. everything in your face comes out, and you *feel* like you can't breathe. albeit it is harder to breathe, your still normally capable. If you do spray someone, it is best advised to call 911 and try to make sure they don't die. wrongful death law suits = no fun. regardless of how righteous you are.

when it comes to animals, I would reccomend a big heavy object over OC any day of the week. even better, a firearm... ive heard of multiple occasions where even the strongest of OC hasnt stopped a motivated pit bull...now the business end of a ball-peen hammer or a brick should TCOB.


ps- i second the vote for FoxLabs..OCAT is good too.

Hi Rumbaugh,

The only weapon that's legal to carry in Canada is a plastic knife from Kentucky Fried Chickens.

Frankie