<sigh> I thought this should move to the Campfire Forum...<br><br>I suspect a cultural miscommunication is fanning these flames. Jampot, exactly WHICH country are you practicing your bushcraft in? If it's where I think, there are some concepts and practices which are not familiar to us North Americans.<br><br>Setting that aside, are you aware that some of the sentiments and opinions you've posted are insulting (and worse) to many of us? I'm guessing some miscommunication is running both directions, colloquial language notwithstanding...<br><br>Let's take a time-out on this, folks, please! Lessee, now, where'd I put that fire extinguisher...<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Scouter Tom

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"I don't give two sh*ts for the land claims people make..."<br>"I simply don't acknowledge the idea of ownership of..." <br>"...the only rights, in my book..."<br>"I don't recognise the claim..." <br><br>"I guess nothing I would say would make any difference to you anyway." Now THIS statement I agree with.<br><br>Where is that campfire tom??? <br><br>

Man has already gone to far. The environment has been altered to a point that it can no longer be returned to its true prestine and natural state. We struggle daily with the problems of starving herds of deer and elk because man has consumed their natural habitat and forced them into ever smaller ranges incapable of supporting their numbers.<br><br>Native American peoples (as well as natives of many other lands) believe no man can own a piece of the earth (property) and that all men a charged with taking care of the earth and its resources. I see the tenants of your beliefs in these ideals. They are noble and I fault you not. Deep down I think all men yearn for things to be the way you see them and believe they should be, whether they will admit it or not. <br><br>I believe eack person should live and conduct their life as their heart leads them. The errors we commit will be corrected by nature one day. We will hate the taste of the medicine but the cure will be world just as spectacularas it once was.

OK, this has moved way beyond any discussion of survival skills or equipment into the realm of politics which is not appropriate for Survival Forum discussion. I have moved this thread to Around The Campfire in hopes that it can be salvaged, but if the flames heat up and discussion continues in this vein, I’ll be forced to shut it down and exclude the parties violating our forum rules.