Didin't want to hijack the prepping thread , so I started this thread to look into bags.

The other day, I was in a store looking for a bag and saw a few models of CANVAS bags. So, my question is : what are the advantages and disadvantages of canvas ???

There were other models of bags made of leather, nylon ...etc. I am mostly fond of nylon since it is light and durable enough. Leather is heavier.

Closures , too, come in different shapes and form. Velcro is great but sometimes too strong for me and noisy. Magnetic buttons are silent. Also , velcro in the inside of a bag may cause problems. I bought a small iPad bag and it had a sleeve inside with a strap ending with velcro. It wasn't only unnecessary for me, the hooks scratched my hand every time I put my hand in there. So I cut the strap and removed the hooks.

Back to my question. Should I consider CANVAS bags when shopping ? What are the pros and cons.

Oh, we don't get much rain where I live. Lots and lots and lots of solar heat though.

Thanks

Other than its traditional appearance, there are no particular advantages to canvas. Nylon is superior in almost every way.

Canvas gets dirty more easily than cordura and is harder to clean. it can also stink if it gets wet and isn't dried promptly.

What kind of bag are you talking about? If it's a small daily-carry type bag, I really like these:

http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-137-molle-bag.html

[img]http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/policestuff_2427_30527541414[/img]

Canvas looks cooler, nice hand, more astetic...less 'pepper.'
I have both materials...but I collect bags.
Look for a fully closable top - zips shut or similar.

My Timbuktu bag is heavy nylon and has seen a great deal of use and abuse, with little visible evidence. It has been in a heavy rain (for about a half hour) with nothing inside getting wet (the flap covers the openings well).

It is completely "civilian" looking, and even works well in a suit. The nylon is flexible enough to allow over stuffing a bit.

I did carry a canvas one for a while for certain activities, but it just did not hold up, and water soaked right through. Even after treatment to repel water, the stuff wore off in particular areas quickly and it even soaked up water from the ground.

Leather bags are heavier, but are durable and fire resistant, if that is a consideration.

Ditto, Haertig -- what kind of bag?

I'm partial to LL Bean bags -- totes, duffles, briefcases, messenger bags, etc.

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/50?page=luggage&nav=gnro-hp


I have a couple of these "Hunter" zip top tote bags, in black, that are invisible through my SUV's tinted windows. They are very sturdy -- the one that goes on all my road trips is packed to the brim and uncomfortably heavy for me to carry far. It is made of: 1,200-denier polyester shell with a thermoplastic interior. I actually did not know it was polyester until just now -- feels like a light canvas.

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/38534?feat=677-GN3&page=hunter-s-tote-bag-zip-top

Thanks everyone

I like the L.L. Bean Continental briefcase ( the design, not the size )
This bag size is around 20 liters.

http://global.llbean.com/shop/Continental-Briefcase/86912.html#start=1

I like the design (front admin/organizer pocket + main compartment + narrow back pocket for papers ) .
If there was a smaller version. Maybe 6-8 liter capacity

For some time I have considered the Maxped Neatfreak. Seems to be in that size range (IIRC), but it has too much pockets. I have several dedicated pouches (for meds, stationery, tools ..etc.) And I transfer them from bag to bag according to my needs for that day. So, a main compartment is necessary for those pouches.

Thanks

That is the right size (about 8 liters), but I don't like those MOLLE on the outside. Not only for the tactical looks but also for paying for things that I do not need/want. I would prefer that additional money goes for triple stitching or an additonal pocket. More function, and less tactical look.

But it is the right size.
I wish it had a front admin pocket, a back pocket, and no MOLLE

Lots of pockets on this guy, and no molle:

http://www.lapolicegear.com/tabaoutbag.html

I have one of these too, and it's a great bag. The problem I have with bags with tons of pockets ... those pockets never seemed to be sized for the things I want to put in them.

Regarding that bag with the molle, it has great stitching, zippers, etc. The thing is bullet proof. It is not lacking in that area because "they used the money for molle instead". Actually, the molle webbing sewn on the bag acts as a macro-sized ripstop fabric and reinforces the strength of the bag. The bag is only $13.49, if they left off the molle it would probably bring that down to $12.99 - not much of a savings.

LA Police Gear used to make a version of this bag without the molle. Yes, I have that one too! Same size, no molle. The handles were different. The original had a single handle that attached to the middle of the top of the bag, and the zipper was off to the side. The new design is much better, with two handles, one on each side. This is much stronger and carries better. The original bag would sag, and you couldn't easily work the zipper while holding the bag by it's handle if it was heavily loaded. These problems were alleviated with the new two handle design. I was initially disappointed when LA Police Gear discontinued the original and replaced it with the molle version. Like you, I have no use for molle on a bag this small. However, since buying the molle version, I like it MUCH better than the non-molle original. The molle webbing does not stick out, does not snag on anything, I just don't use it and ignore it.

LOL. Especially the horizontal pocket on the bottom in the back. I have seen some fold a bandana, or put a flashlight. But other than that, I dont know what to put there.

There are 2 more "problems" with this bag. Or actually with the size I want. This bag is about average or medium , where the bag I need is somewhere between medium and small. That is why it is hard to find. Also , those "Mag" pockets are too narrow and I wish there were 2 admin pockets instead. Perhaps they are good for pens, glasses, and such.

Again, the first bag is right at the size I want.

Can someone tell me which bag this is .
The page is missing.

Hi,
It is?
-> MI9H6GWsYYE LA POLICE GEAR JUMBO BAIL OUT BAG (29.99) - YouTube

-> LAPG-BG-1119Jumbo

I have the LAPG Bail Out Bag. While it offers a great deal of organization, it is also heavy for its size and not very big for the number of compartments it has. I'd think of it as a giant pocket organizer. It's best for bugging out in a car and for organizing the relatively small items that you need quick access to. Some people use it as a range bag.

Walking for a long time or carrying bulking items -- ye olde backpack works far better.

Hi EMP

Thanks but I was asking about another bag
I posted the picture but seemingly it disappeared for some reason

Anyway, I think I found the bag that fits most criteria. It is the Maxped Narrow Look bag




Organized front pocket.
Size is about 7 liters

And here is the picture that disappeared

I just found out it is the Maxpedition Spatha

Oh, the missing picture is back !!

hmmmm.
The bag looks similar to the Spatha but it is not the same.
Does anyone know which bag is this ???





If it does not show, click mouse right-button, and "show picture"

Anyways, I came today to ask another question related to bags

A few weeks ago, I bought a small shoulder bag ( an 10 inch iPad bag ) and done a few modifications on it. Now, I need to do soemthing about the shoulder strap. It is about 1.5 inches wide, and is so smooth. It always slides off my shoulder. I need to attach something to it that makes it slip-proof.

Does any bag sompany sell such a thing ?

The strap is not removeable. It is sewn into the bag on one end, so I can't change it.

Maxpedition has shoulder pads that have a non-slip surface.

Hi,
see links above, MI9H6GWsYYE is the youtube video id, LAPG-BG-1119Jumbo is the bag

I used to carry a Maglight there. But now you can buy LED flashlights the size of your thumb that absolutely blow away a D-cell Maglight. So after those came about, I started carrying an ultra-small fold up umbrella in that pocket. I never use umbrellas, so after a bit I said to myself, "...so why am I carrying one?" Currently I have some first aid supplies in there. You get the correct sized Tylenol bottle and mix whatever pills you want in there (I know, they say never to do that, but I don't listen). I've got some 4x4's and stretch wrap in there. And bandaids. Polysporin opintment. Miscellaneous first aid stuff.

I like some of these bags and seem to have the same issue with pockets. They are either too big or two small. Too big is preferable, all you need is smaller bags to separate items. Too small is a non-starter.

Regarding umbrellas, think instant shelter. I don't carry one either here in SOCAL, but the one I currently own was purchased during a major thunderstorm when I lived in VA a long time back. It wasn't cheap, but is really well made. A small well made collapsible umbrella should be a consideration for areas where rain is often in the forecast.