Thanks

What I am looking for is about half the size of these bags.

In addition, Timbuk2 inverted trapeziod shape is a turnoff for me. I prefer squared corners. The Classic X-Small messenger is about 8 liters which is great, but it is trapeziod shape.

The Timbuk2 Blogger bag is nice, but is twice the size I need. It's almost like a backpack.

I will keep looking for various meodels of Eagle Creek.

Thanks