>>what you desscribed was field craft, campcraft, however you wishto call that-It is NOT SURVIVAL!!!!

It is if your life is at stake.

I may have misunderstood your post, but survival has nothing to do with comfort. You can be very uncomfortable and not in the least threatened; you can be very comfortable and be minutes away from death.

For example, a pilot in a light plane over the Rocky Mountains at night, with only ten minutes of fuel left, is physically just as comfortable as if he had full tanks and was within gliding distance of Kansas City Municipal. Except he's probably sweating bullets.

Laurence Gonzales (Deep Survival) describes the case of a US Army Ranger Captain who drowned after he got thrown overboard on a commercial whitewater rafting excursion - apparently because he made the same mistake as you (apparently) just did. He was properly dressed, he was warm, he was fit, he was well-fed - so when the (civilian) guide tried to rescue him, he just laughed and pushed the guy away. A few minutes later, he was pinned under a rock and drowned. His army training had conditioned him to think of survival as being wet, cold, hungry and miserable.

If you're lost in the woods, you're lost in the woods. If you don't know how to build a shelter, build a fire, keep warm, find water, and signal for help, you could die. That, by definition, is a survival situation. MHOO,OC <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />