Piet,<br><br>Thanks - based on all the testimonials on the Thinsulite versions, I suppose I'll look into them. Meanwhile, we're all happy with the issue liners, although I did have a bit of sticker shock when I saw what they cost now. Even the Clothing Sales price is substantially more than what I paid several years ago.<br><br>Have fun with your Scouting - I sure do!<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Tom Ayers