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#279781 - 02/28/16 09:43 PM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: Bingley]
acropolis5 Offline
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Registered: 06/18/06
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Bingley: In my case, near the center of the NY/ NJ Metro area, I'm staying urban and in place, unless there is nuclear / chemical contamination or other such threat that requires immediate evacuation. Why, because Manhattan and the feeder roads/ rails/ airports are the locus of finance, communications, transportation and corporate HQs, in the USA and for a good chunk of the Western World. IMO, other than the Government center of Washington DC, that part of the NY/NJ Metro area is the next place the national and state governments are going to get up and running in a disaster. Except in the event of a multi-megaton direct hit, I cannot imagine a Black Swan event that changes that scenario.

I lived through 911 in this location and I held a peripheral governmental office which provided me some measure of knowledge concerning the movement of resources into Manhattan and the rerouting of transport around the stricken WTC site and lower Manhattan. It was the most intensive and impressive mobilization I have ever witnessed.

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#279784 - 02/29/16 02:33 PM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: gonewiththewind]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3843
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Montanero
I recommend HIGHLY the work of a guy named Rory Miller on Conflict Communications.


I just bought this book based on your recommendation. I'll try to read it sometime in March.

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#279785 - 02/29/16 03:22 PM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: JeffMc]
gonewiththewind Offline
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Registered: 10/14/08
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Another book that goes along with it is his book "Facing Violence". Adds to it. He does have others, but these are the two that best suit these needs.

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#279786 - 02/29/16 07:43 PM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: JeffMc]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3843
Loc: USA
Thank you!

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#279787 - 02/29/16 09:24 PM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: gonewiththewind]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 982
Loc: Norway
Thanks Montanero, you just made two nice additions to my reading list!

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#279788 - 02/29/16 10:30 PM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: JeffMc]
gonewiththewind Offline
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This guy worked in corrections for a long time, and regularly had to extract prisoners from their cells that did not want to come out. He could usually talk them out be using these techniques. The whole point of it is to recognize it, understand the dynamics, avoid it, reduce the threat, or escape from it. The techniques are very practical and not difficult to learn.

He does carry it way beyond and teaches the actual violent techniques as well. But you can't learn that from a book, or in a forum.

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#280135 - 03/29/16 05:51 AM Re: Urban-specific survival advice? [Re: gonewiththewind]
Rockazar Offline
Stranger

Registered: 03/23/16
Posts: 4
Loc: TX
Originally Posted By: Montanero


There are many other aspects of communication in this type of environment, and it is a survival skill. It can be learned. If anyone would like, I can put together a list of the best books on the subject. I have done extensive training in this, and have a great deal of experience using it. It can help anyone in any situation where they deal with people, not just survival situations. It is well worth the effort.


I'm creating a zombie thread, but is it still possible to request this list? That looks like a great subject.

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