I Did Find your Link Pretty Interesting and Informative, and Thanks for it!

Much of it's Things I've had Occur to me, in One Way or Another, Before. But No Less Interesting or Informative! Some New and Interesting Things were there as Well. Plus a Few "Unintended Leaveouts".

For Instance, -In Addition to his Fine Methods for Catching Pigeons, -I Think Netting would be Good for this Purpose! Or some sort of a "Shoot Forth" and/or Trapping, -Kind of Netting Combination.

Also, Now being Reminded of an Earlier Post(s), -a Handful of Rocks or Other Substances can be Quickly Thrown into a Nearby Bunching of Pigeons. (Grounded or Less Likely Airborne). Some Being Thereby Disabled or Wounded Enuf, to Easily be Able to be Caught, -Would Quite Likely Result.

One should also be rather Easily Able to Lure a Bunch into a Box Like Trap, -with the Ever Present Buns, Crackers, or Other Bread Products, Readily Found in Urban Areas. If Not Already Nearby on the Sidewalk, -They can Pretty Readily be Found in Trash Cans.

Hate to Sound like a Garbage Picker here, but Here we're of course Talking About a Survival Scenario. And here One After All's Using such Bread for Pigeon Bait Purposes, -Not Eating such Themself.

It might also at Times be Possible, -to Get In at Pigeon Roosts, -at Evening or Night, -When They may be Unawaredly Asleep, Rather Inactive, or Certainly More Boxed In.

One can even Modify a Sleeping Area as a Trap, -or Make a Sleeping Area / Trap, in this Regard!

But Getting At Pigeon Roosts, -May More Often be Easier Said than Done! In that They Often Roost Up High. Or in Otherwise Rather Inaccessable or Dangerous Areas.

More Conventional Ground Traps / Baits / Netting, and "Recycler's" Great Ideas on the Subject, -Still can Nevertheless Be Better!, and Quite Feasable!

Even if I Didn't Recently have some Reasonably Possible Concerns about maybe Becoming Homeless Myself, -I Would Find "Recycler's" Observations Very Informative and Interesting in their Own Right! Importance and Right.

Aluminum Can Collecting for Recycling Purposes, -Can also Bring in at least some Money.

Along Lines of Singing or Capitalizing on Other Talents for Money, -I just Happen to have Thot of Juggling a Few Weeks Ago. I Have a Little Yen to Learn and Practice some Juggling in Any Event. If One Knows That, -That Too can be Such a Talent Skill, -that a Homeless Person could Use Towards Basic Income / Living / and Survival Purposes.

Someone who's at least an Amateur Magician, -Can also Apply This Very Well! In the Same Way!

Magic Trix and Magicianship, By the Way, -is One of Those Many Sundry *Other* Areas of Life, -that just Could, -Have Importyant Survival Applications. In Urban, Teotwawki, or even Standard and Classic Survival. What One can perhaps Do in a Pinch, -With a "Sleight of Hand" Ability!

Go Back to WW 2 for Example! If Someone's Trying to Evade the Gestapo, for instance, -Yet Also Knows Some Good Sleight of Hand Magicianship! -This can Stand Him or Her in Really Good Stead! Towards Pulling Something Over on the Gestapo or their Likes. Towards Getting on Out of a Tight Spot!

Many Other "Outside our Area" Fields, -Foreign Languages Knowledge / Knack / or Fluency, for Example, -Can Also So and Importantly Contribute!

Maps, Geography, Soils, Plants and Gardening, Forestry, Fish or Chicken Raising, Firearms, Hunting, Fishing, Trapping, Archery, Marksmanship, Martial Arts and Other Self Defense, Animal Wisdom and Ways, American Indian Wisdom and Ways, Swimming and Diving, Caveing, Health and Nutrition, Woodworking, Cabin Building, Rock and Mountain Climbing, Bycycling, Plant and Animal Identification, Grinding and Milling, Cooking and Food Preservation, First Aid / Safety / Emergency Prep, and Such Like, Farming, Weather Wisdom, Poisions, Boats and Seamanship, Radio and Comm, Anthropological Knowledge of Local Natives / Customs / and Peoples, -the List can Go On and On!

So Look to Some Other Love or Interest in your Life!, to See if It May Just Have some Important and Useful, -Survival Applications!!!

Look at All the Great, True Life Stories!, from WW-2 and Elsewhere! Where both Servicemen and Civilians, -Were Able to Magnificently Pull some Pretty Magnificent Things Off! Precisely Because they *Had* some Good Knowledge or Talents!, -From some "Total *Other* Area" of Life!

I once Read of a Free French Tank Soldier, -Who in the WW-2 Liberation of Paris, -Who Magnificently Did Such! This Free French Tankman Landed a Shot Right on Target!, -Down the Champs Elysees! All Because he Remembered the Length and Distance Down Such, -From Something he Had Once Read in an Encyclopedia!

This is the Kind of Stuff I'm Referring to here! *These* Sorts of Things! Thats the Idea and Spirit! I Beleive they Nowadays Call it, -as Thinking a Little "Outside the Box"!

How About All the "Outside Skills" which Come into Play! In So Many of the World's Great Escapes!, to Date?! A Great, Rich Heritage, and Knowledge Pool and Base, Has Been Built Up here too! The "Papers Forger"! The Aircraft or Balloon Designers from Another, Earlier Life. To Name just Two! These Skills Now Get Them OUT of their Cage! Coming in Mighty Handy! And Playing Such an Important Part!

And How Bout All of Houdini's Great Escape Artistry Skills and Secrets!? How Handy and Applicable They Shud Come In! Should One so Know Them! This would be a Great Topic, Post, and Thread In Itself! *He Did it Somehow! And as Such, -It CAN Be Done!*

Another One I've Long Enjoyed Doing, -is Balancing! On Fences, Railroad Tracks, Etc. As I Walk Along. In a sort of Balancing / Walking Combination! Shooting For as Much Length and Endurance as One Can! I've Gotten Quite Good at Both! It's a Nice Little Pastime! This is Another Talent / Skill / Area of Life, -Which can Have Important and Useful, -Survival Applicabilities!

So Such "Other Fields Applications", -Would be Great "Courses" to Add to the "Curriculum" of our Dream "Survival U."! (University).

If you Could Draw Up the Courseload of your Dream "Survival University", -What Might that Include or Entail?! What would you Think to Be Absolute Musts?! Required Courses! How Much Field Practice / Lessons / and Tests, -Would you Think Should be Included? Etc Etc Etc. This Too can Make for an Interesting Post and Thread in Itself! We may Do so Sometime.

Thanks of course for your Kind and Considerate Observation on my Robinson Crusoeish Style. More than Once, -I've Felt myself to be, Kind of a 1700s or 1800s Type Guy! And Robinson Crusoe and Swiss Family Robinson Type Stories, -While Not on my Most Forward Portions of my Front Burner, -are of course Still Well Up There!

Beyond Such General RC and Such of Style(s), -I Think I Still Have an Occassional Writing Bug, to Polish Up, -for People's Easier (or at Least Certainly Not Difficult!) Reading. Some Instances Still Get Thru my "Composing / Editing Screen"! To One Degree or Another. Thankfully They're Mostly Smallish, -when they Do Occur.

In some of my Earlier Posts, -a Lot More of Such Sometimes Got By me! I've of Course Wrestled that Bull by the Horns, and Worked on It, -and though Much of This may have Took Two or Three Weeks All Told!, -I Got It Down! I've Greatly Improved Those Aspects of my Then Writing Style Hangups, -and I Think I've Since Pretty Consistently Maintained Such! I Think I for a Long While now, -I Have Got it Up to Where It Essentially Should Be.

It is Only Right, Fair, and Considerate, -to Whoever may be Reading!

I'm Glad I've now Wrestled it Down! And am Keeping it Down!

As Some Have Previously Said, -I Have the Substance and Values End of Things Down Real Good! But my Style Lacks of the Time!, -were Such that Some People *Had* to Constructively Offer me their Helpful Criticism and Comments!

But Some Occassional Remaining Bugs / Room for Improvement, -I'm Pretty Sure Sometimes Remains. I'll Continue to Keep a Watch on it!

That All Said and So, -Thanks For your Larger, Robinson Crusoe like, Compliments.

Though I am Not British myself, (Except in a Goodly Some Ways At Heart!), -I Extend Cheers to You as Well! [color:"black"] [/color] [email]ditchfield[/email]