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#277337 - 10/28/15 02:12 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Will your employer spring for location-specific training?

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#277338 - 10/28/15 02:27 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
Bingley Offline
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I recall there was a thread about the sort of training one could get for going to dangerous areas. I also seem to remember the focus was on civilians, rather than, say military employees. But perhaps OP would still find it useful.

Some of the places that the OP may go to are pretty nice and safe: Japan, South Korean, Italy... Make sure to hit Kyoto if you're in Japan. It's quite beautiful there, full of old temples.

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#277339 - 10/28/15 03:29 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: chaosmagnet]
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Good question, you could say I am pre-gaming right now. I have a final interview (#4) coming up, but I also have an inside source. Short of showing up in my birthday suit, I am doing very well.

I don't foresee it right now though.
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#277341 - 10/28/15 03:42 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Bingley]
Desperado Offline
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My military service feels like it was 100 years and 100 pounds ago. The years (actually 20) can't be helped. The pounds are my fault, and I am working on that.

My SERE training and survival training were focused on jungle or Europe during the Cold War. This isn't very helpful in avoiding a kidnap in Phoenix, Dallas, Rota, Djbouti, or Bahrain.

I am looking into paying for training from my retirement fund. I consider it insurance, that I get to use my retirement fund.
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#277342 - 10/28/15 03:57 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
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More then a couple of years back, I was OK'd for OCONUS travel. My employer sent me through Anti-terrorism Awareness training, level 1. What I remember from the training and general advice:
-Make backups of any necessary papers like visas and passports and keep them on you.
-Don't advertise you're American or wear anything that could identify you as doing defense work. The guy wearing the green "USMC" t-shirt will be the first one killed if the plane is hijacked. For that matter, don't stand out.
-If the plane is hijacked, they will post guards at the front and the rear of the cabin. Take a window seat near the middle to minimise your chance of getting noticed.
-Upon your safe arrival at your destination, notify you're employer or the Consulate.
- If taking a taxi,take a taxi from the "official" taxi stand,
- If driving, rent a midsized sedan. SUVs are not common in most cities, and anything flashy will get you noticed for a possible profitable kidnapping
- Stay on the main streets. Do not take shortcuts through secondaries. Crowds offer protection.
-Upon arrival at the hotel, request a room between the second(?), and fifth(?) floor facing away from the street. The first floor is too easily accessible, and if you're too high, emergency services may not be able to get a ladder to you.
-Back the car into the stall. Pick a well lit spot near the hotel entrance.
-When getting into the car, perform a walk around, look under the car, under the hood, in the trunk, and in the cabin for evidence of tampering or explosives.
-When taking instructions by phone, do not repeat the instructions out loud. Somebody may be listening.
-If you see the same vehicle or person often, notify security, you may be being followed.
-If you notice a lapse of security, such as a door propped open, notify security.
- Stay on site as much as possible
- Cooperate with security and the local cops.
- If there is a delivery to your hotel room, ask them to leave the package with the front desk. Call the front desk and confirm that there was a delivery for you. The same goes for unexpected room service or guests. If something doesn't "feel" right, request a security escort.
- If you are taken hostage, don't talk politics with the hostage takers. For that matter, STFU. When/if a rescue attempt is made, hit the floor and stay there!
- If an assasination attempt is made while driving, GO! Moving targets are harder to hit. If you stay put, you're going to end up like Sonny Corleone. Always leave at least 8 feet of space in front of your car at lights to avoid being boxed in. If you have to jump the curb, hit it at less then 25 mph at a 30 degree angle.
- If you receive a package with incomplete or misspelled names, odd shaped, smells funny, or has wires sticking out of it, assume it's a bomb. Leave it where it is and get clear. Then call the cops. This applies at home as well as OCONUS.

There's probably more, but that's all I remember off the top of my head.
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#277343 - 10/28/15 12:47 PM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
roberttheiii Offline
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Registered: 02/13/09
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Loc: Connecticut, USA
The courses offered by these guys seem fun: http://www.onpointtactical.com/ No affiliation and I have not taken one. I did see a review of them at http://www.itstactical.com/, which is just a site I periodically browse. Just realized I also read about on point tactical in Neil Strauss' book Emergency.

R

Edit: Also saw a review in Emergency


Edited by roberttheiii (10/28/15 12:50 PM)

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#277360 - 10/28/15 09:58 PM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Bingley]
Teslinhiker Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bingley
I recall there was a thread about the sort of training one could get for going to dangerous areas. I also seem to remember the focus was on civilians, rather than, say military employees. But perhaps OP would still find it useful.


Bingley, is this the thread that you were thinking of? On page 2 of that thread, I posted a link for this .pdf manual that has some very good and detailed info for NGO's traveling in conflict areas but could apply to most travelers.
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#277363 - 10/29/15 12:19 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
Bingley Offline
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I was thinking of this thread called "Foreign Correspondent Survival School?":

http://forums.equipped.org/ubbthreads.ph...true#Post266065

I don't know anything about getting by in such dangerous places, but this thread seems like it's got some common areas of concern with the OP.


Edited by Bingley (10/29/15 01:06 AM)

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#277417 - 11/01/15 07:33 PM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
duckear Offline
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Sat phone and Global Rescue security plan.

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#277443 - 11/04/15 04:26 AM Re: World Travel Kit For Various Locations [Re: Desperado]
duckear Offline
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