bws48, many thanx for taking the time to find the thread. And yes, that's the thread to which I was referring . I also agree, it contains many valuable ideas. The most glaring omission from my list was a paper map. IMO, the three most valuable items in my list, not in the others, are the Xcaper Escape Mask ,swim goggles and Nomex gloves. Very useful to self extricate a smoke/ debris filled building or tunnel.