I have been trying not to pass judgement in my posts in this subject. I don't draw any lines. All I can comment on is my interpretation of the press reports.
I don't disagree with you on any of your points. The "nanny state" affects us in many aspects of our lives, not just gun control.
I couldn't and wouldn't try to set the boundaries of what is acceptable or not. We all have to live within the laws of our country. (It woud be an interesting to find out if members of this forum think it is alright to break the law in the name of self defence - I think I do already)
So please if I read a few reports on this matter, (and with a lack of any other information, I have to assume the stories are at least partly correct) and then comment on them here, I am not taking a stance on gun control, political policy, or taking the moral high ground - I am saying, in this case, from what I've read I would agree with the authorities.
I'll leave line drawing to those who know better.