It is with a sense of mixed emotions that I post this, about a guy from my own original hometown....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/04/29/staten.island.arsenal/index.html

The culprit defines himself as a "survivalist" and had the cache in order to defend his home and family against whatever threat.

Who / What were they trying to survive ? No mention of water / food / medical supplies.....

Water/food/medical supplies don't make "scary" headlines! As for the guns/ammo, I have that many guns in my gun safe (no bombs!), that doesn't make me a "wacko survivalist", or does it? <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
gino

There are places and individuals where 13 firearms and even explosives possession would be a social norm. Obviously, this couple displayed behavior that made the possession an issue. They may be called survivalists, but they weren't very good ones. My Grandparents had extensive food supplies. Part of this was the then norm of buying fresh or seasonal produce and "putting it up." Another part was the memory of The Great Depression. I think the last jar of strawberry preserves was finally consumed a few years after my grandmother's passing. It may have been an over reaction to hard times, but it tasted better than gun cleaning solvent <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

that was a pretty short article, what id like to know is, WHO snitched on this guy and why.
sounds like a slow news day and they needed SOMETHING to grab headlines. (maybe to distract our attention from something else?)

i feel its ok to have 13 guns and 10,000 rounds of ammo, but the home made bombs is pushing it.

in a "situation" i can see making and using them, but making them and leaving them in your home is kinda stupid IF thats what he indeed did, and this story wasnt over-inflated like i suspect it probably was.

What? Doesn't EVERONE have matching, his-n-her's SKS' ?

The link below follows up on the article. Apparently he had Nazi literature, posters and weapons. Here a quote:

"Officials also discovered a vintage Nazi armband, a knife bearing swastikas and a vintage dagger with Gothic German lettering. His basement library included manuals on explosive and ammunition reloading, police said, as well as a copy of "Abandonment of the Jews," a book by David S. Wyman that accuses President Roosevelt of being anti-Semitic for refusing to intervene in the Holocaust earlier than he did"

http://www.silive.com/news/advance/index.ssf?/base/news/1083331006203760.xml

NY Post article did mention that he had food supply that would last him a few months. Also they quite often repeated "canned spam". Very interesting. I don't understand how did PD got a smell of him. I mean yes he maybe was potentialy unstable and violent but what did he do that made them watch him closer?

Matt

So was he a "nazi" or a "jewish sympathiser" with reminders of what evil men can do, and tried to have the means of avoiding it? The article does not mke it clear which "side" this family was on.

I am also curious how long the child will survive in the hands of child services. Far from everyone does.

Also, were there actual homemade bombs, or simply "bomb making materials" which could have included common household cleaners, plumbing detritis and some of his reloading materials. With the comon modern bias in the press and draconian disarming laws it is really hard to tell what actually happened from the article.

Grommit
I didn't comment on purpose. I have read other articles saying he took 9/11 events very badly, and went over the top in terms of preparedness against the threat he percieved.
Its hard to tell whats on a persons mind at the best of times. If I had to explain all my actions in some sort of logical reasoning, I'd struggle.
If you believe the article, the weapons he had were illegal and very dangerous, especially with a child around. For that reason alone its probably better he is in custody.