#272260 - 10/16/14 02:09 AM
Shoots bear, and buddy
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In an unfortunate incident, a Canadian was mauled by a bear, and then shot by his friend who was trying to shoot the bear: Fernie grizzly bear attack victim Wilf Lloyd remains in Calgary hospitalWilf Lloyd, 56, was hunting elk with his son-in-law Skeet Podrasky when the bear attacked, in a heavily wooded area about eight kilometres south of the small mountain community. Podrasky fired on the bear but missed, sending a shot into his hunting partner, before he finally hit and killed the animal. Other reports are that Mr. Lloyd may lose his leg as a result: Grizzly attack victim may need leg amputation Family friends say doctors are trying to place a rod in Wilf’s injured leg. If that isn’t successful, it may need to be amputated.
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#272267 - 10/16/14 12:43 PM
Re: Shoots bear, and buddy
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#272269 - 10/16/14 02:19 PM
Re: Shoots bear, and buddy
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We should cut the victim's partner a little slack. Tricky business, shooting a bear at close range in a high stress situation. Especially with a hunting rifle zeroed for, say, 100 yards or greater. It would take some deliberate practice to know where the round would strike at close range.
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#272270 - 10/16/14 02:51 PM
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At the risk of muddying this thread, here's a firsthand account of a grizzly attack in the same area last year. No chest beating here. It's highly instructive of how real people react in such situations. The 2013 story: http://fernie.com/blog/2013/07/fernie-men-tell-story-of-grizzly-attack/
Edited by dougwalkabout (10/16/14 02:52 PM)
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#272272 - 10/16/14 03:24 PM
Re: Shoots bear, and buddy
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We should cut the victim's partner a little slack. Indeed we should. I meant no attack on the partner. I was just reporting the story as it appeared in the press. If I remember correctly, there was a similar story (with even more tragic results) reported on ETS a few years ago. Blue on blue is always a potential issue with firearms.
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#272283 - 10/16/14 08:36 PM
Re: Shoots bear, and buddy
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Nothing was done wrong. Unfortunate and unexpected things happen and you make do with what you have.
Even retrospectively, it is unreasonable to expect to practice/train for use of a firearm defensively for a situation where you are firing a rifle at short distance (likely yards) at a moving target (bear) while trying NOT to shoot yet another moving target (person) in close proximity and under extreme stress.
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#272285 - 10/16/14 09:45 PM
Re: Shoots bear, and buddy
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Even retrospectively, it is unreasonable to expect to practice/train for use of a firearm defensively for a situation where you are firing a rifle at short distance (likely yards) at a moving target (bear) while trying NOT to shoot yet another moving target (person) in close proximity and under extreme stress. Training for defensive use of firearms can be done in a way that safely simulates some degree of stress. I've done some Three Gun stages with moving shoots and no-shoots in proximity to each other. If I hit one of the no-shoots I'd have to tape it up, lose points, and get razzed by my friends. That's very different from having the consequence of dying, or shooting a friend, to be sure. Without a doubt, competition stress is different from bear-attack stress. But it's way better than nothing.
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