Thanks, Paul I have been wondering about them .I wouldn't care about the SW, just need the AM/FM for a BOB radio. I really don't need one now. Between the scanners and a small AM/FM that runs off AA's or the hand crank (for the BOB) I've got it covered. I put a 60 foot piece of wire about 20 feet up and alligator clipped it onto my portable Sangean SW receiver for good results. I think I logged 20 countries including Israel ,South Africa and Austrailia. The antenna winds up being much more important than the radio. During the Loma Prieta quake it was amazing how many people didn't have a battery powered radio.