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#270458 - 06/15/14 04:36 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: Omega]
yee Offline
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Originally Posted By: Omega
Originally Posted By: haertig
Do you want something for hiking/backpacking or something to carry in your car emergency kit?

I was thinking something versatile - mainly use in conjunction with a car, but abroad, i.e. compact enough for flights and transportation to the destination.


If you are doing this in conjunction with a car, then the car is your shelter. It is superior to anything else you can carry.

Except for unusual circumstances, you are safer using the car as shelter than walking out.

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#270459 - 06/15/14 04:42 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: yee]
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Originally Posted By: yee
Originally Posted By: Omega
Originally Posted By: haertig
Do you want something for hiking/backpacking or something to carry in your car emergency kit?

I was thinking something versatile - mainly use in conjunction with a car, but abroad, i.e. compact enough for flights and transportation to the destination.


If you are doing this in conjunction with a car, then the car is your shelter. It is superior to anything else you can carry.

Except for unusual circumstances, you are safer using the car as shelter than walking out.

+1; stay in the car. As for which bivvy, either the one I suggested in my previous post, or the slightly more expensive one suggested by AKSAR.

When you are in the car, you are out of the wind and wet: only only have to deal with the cold. This simplifies things greatly.
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#270462 - 06/15/14 06:08 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: Omega]
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emergency bivy or bothy bag

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#270470 - 06/16/14 05:21 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: Omega]
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Again, I must confess my ignorance. I'm well aqquainted with bivies, but what is a bothy bag?

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#270471 - 06/16/14 05:35 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: yee]
Deathwind Offline
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I once saw a site where they had some interesting projects for used space blankets. And in another forum I saw mention of survival suits made from space blanket material. I don't remember where they are sold however.

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#270472 - 06/16/14 05:38 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: Deathwind]
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Originally Posted By: Deathwind
... but what is a bothy bag?

I assumed that was just a typo, and they meant "body bag". But if there is this bothy bag thing, I'm interested to hear what it is too!

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#270473 - 06/16/14 05:51 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: haertig]
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It is essentially a fabric bag large enough to hold three or so people, crowded together for sure. No floor, but some models have windows. Think of a small tent without poles.

Bothy bags are a Brit thing. Lord knows they have the weather that justifies such things.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHmfxOBB3Ug


Edited by hikermor (06/16/14 05:55 PM)
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#270476 - 06/16/14 06:49 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: bws48]
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Consider the Gatewood Cape - dual function poncho/rain gear and shelter. I have no personal experience, but I hear good things - http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/tarps/GatewoodCape.html
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#270477 - 06/16/14 10:18 PM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: hikermor]
Deathwind Offline
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Thanks hikermore.
Having seen a bit of the video I remember seeing them before. I don't like the idea of no floor especially in wet or cold weather.
A long time ago Outdoor Life or Field & Stream reviewed a poncho, tent, coat, etc device. I tried to track them down but the company had simply vanished.

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#270480 - 06/17/14 03:28 AM Re: Lightweight/compact shelter/protection [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
It is essentially a fabric bag large enough to hold three or so people, crowded together for sure.

I watched that video link. It looks like if you enter your "bivy bag" backwards (head first) and squat instead of lay down, you can rename it a "bothy bag". Seems like an odd thing to do. I don't get it.

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