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#270217 - 06/01/14 11:12 AM Re: Search called off for 4 missing yachtsmen [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
Brangdon Offline
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Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
Originally Posted By: Brangdon
Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
Even if they abandoned to the raft successfully it is unlikely, given the present sea state and weather conditions, that even sheltered in a raft they will have survived to the present time.
Is that because of cold? I'm surprised that a modern life raft doesn't help more. Could you (or anyone) say a bit more about the challenges?


Yep. 50 F is 10 C.
In air that is survivable with reasonable clothing.
In water that is killing cold.
Why wouldn't the life raft keep them out of the water? Even if they were wet when they got in it, I'd have hoped the raft would have enough cover to keep the wind and rain off them, and their body heat would eventually warm up the water in their clothes, and then they'd largely stabilise.

For example this at £600 was one of the cheaper ones I found when I searched. It has an integrated tent-like canopy and an insulated floor. Wouldn't something like that protect from exposure for many days?
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#270222 - 06/01/14 04:14 PM Re: Search called off for 4 missing yachtsmen [Re: Brangdon]
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In heavy seas you get water ingress into the raft. That can vary from a few millimeters to completely flooded. Also the raft will chill to ambient temperature. Not a good situation, even in ideal situations. The blunt truth of the matter is that liferafts are only intended to provide short term sanctuary for a few hours to a few days depending on the conditions.
Long term survival in a raft only occurs in tropical waters under unusual conditions.

It appears that in this instance the Crew had no chance to abandon. That strongly suggests to me that they were taken by a wave.
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#270239 - 06/02/14 07:24 PM Re: Search called off for 4 missing yachtsmen [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
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Loc: Anne Arundel County, Maryland
Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe

Long term survival in a raft only occurs in tropical waters under unusual conditions.


An excellent account of just such a survival is Steve Callahan's 76 day survival and recounted in "Adrift." I think most folks here are familiar with it. If not, I highly recommend it.

For the super short version, read his "5 Realities of Being Lost at Sea" here:
http://www.cracked.com/article_21145_5-things-i-learned-about-survival-while-i-was-lost-at-sea.html
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