#270182 - 05/30/14 04:45 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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I always thought it was OK because I saw Bear Grylls do it on TV. Whatever BG does...I would rather distill my pee first, before drinking, and I would do the same with sea water. The feasibility of imbibing sea water has been advocated from time to time, and the notion just doesn't hold water (so to speak).
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#270184 - 05/30/14 06:05 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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If I were in an actual wilderness survival situation 'd much rather have Cody Lundin along that Bear. Cody at least is mildly amusing. Bear would be trying to sell me all his officially licensed products andI tend to find the man generally annoying.
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#270185 - 05/30/14 06:13 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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If I were in an actual wilderness survival situation 'd much rather have Cody Lundin along that Bear. Cody at least is mildly amusing. Bear would be trying to sell me all his officially licensed products andI tend to find the man generally annoying. I would take Les Stroud over anybody. Mr. Lundin offers a lot as an author and presumably as an instructor, but I respectfully disagree with him on the footwear front. As for Mr. Grylls, I expect that if you were in an actual wilderness survival situation with him he'd offer you a meal from craft service and give you a ride in his helicopter to a nice hotel.
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#270201 - 05/31/14 05:08 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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Lmao! He has some interesting tips. But I agree about the lack of footwear despite spending my formative and teen years mostly barefoot. A nice plate of shrimp and melon balls would be a nice treat before the helicopter ride back to the Hilton lol.
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#270216 - 06/01/14 10:58 AM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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I think I will follow AKSAR's wise counsel and avoid peeing into my wounds. What great things we learn on this forum.... If you have disinfected water available, that's great. Hypothetically, suppose I was marooned somewhere and had (a) a small amount of drinkable water I'd carried with me; (b) some found water that I'd consider too contaminated to drink; and (c) fresh urine. I suspect that the urine would be a better choice for cleaning wounds than the found water. It'd be nice to use the carried water to rinse out the urine at the end, but I wouldn't use it for that if I felt I needed it for drinking. If I had the means to purify the found water, that changes things. The point is, urine isn't always the worst choice.
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#270220 - 06/01/14 02:17 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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f you have disinfected water available, that's great. Hypothetically, suppose I was marooned somewhere and had (a) a small amount of drinkable water I'd carried with me; (b) some found water that I'd consider too contaminated to drink; and (c) fresh urine. I suspect that the urine would be a better choice for cleaning wounds than the found water. It'd be nice to use the carried water to rinse out the urine at the end, but I wouldn't use it for that if I felt I needed it for drinking.
If I had the means to purify the found water, that changes things. The point is, urine isn't always the worst choice. This is probably a rather theoretical discussion. I have been present as part of a first responder team in somewhere over 100 situations, and we have never cleaned out the wound by flushing with any liquid.Just stop the bleeding, stabilize, and transport. Most of these have been back country or wilderness situations in an arid environment; rarely has there been water "too contaminated for drinking." Peeing is for local soil enrichment......
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#270221 - 06/01/14 02:39 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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I agree with Hikermor. Stop or slow bleeding, stabilize, and MedEvac has been the response of those on scene.
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#270223 - 06/01/14 05:30 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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As I remember the training I received (many years ago), urine was only considered as a possible method to clean a wound in a situation where medieval was not an option and you had to provide long term care. It was never considered sterile (probably a more recently developed myth) and only a last resort for cleaning dirt and debris out of a wound. We were told to use the person's own urine, and to further cleanse the wound with alcohol or peroxide if it was available. Clean water was always a first choice, and taking the time to boil the water, or purify it in any other way, was worth the time and effort as the dirt and debris will take time to begin an infection. Of course there are many variables involved in this. The dirt and debris need to be removed before the wound is bandaged up for long term care. Understand that this scenario was taught at military survival schools for a long term evasion or isolation situation only. It also did not receive more than a brief mention as a possible alternative to flushing the wound with clean water, it was never considered a primary method of cleaning a wound.
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#270299 - 06/07/14 07:29 PM
Re: Urine Not Sterile
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clearly your urine needs a higher ALCOHOL content!! Hahahaha!
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#270302 - 06/07/14 11:25 PM
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